Sure, there was one winner. It's an exception not a rule, when you are pointing out some obscure instance. It's like the Moneyball fans that point at the Piston's championship, so the Rockets don't need a superstar to win a ring.
82games would disagree with you. Durant isn't a defender. Westbrook is about a smidgen above average. Those are the numbers.
The mavericks were a defensive team last year. WITH Dirk on it. They were part of the rule, not the exception.
Yeah, he has been pretty good this season. He's doing better than our defensive specialist Parsons(ranked 145), who might be as good as Battier someday. He is holding the opposing player to 32.6% FG overall for the season.
Tony Parker lit him up for 42 points. All 42 probably not on Westbrook but most were. When Monta dropped 40 he was still scoring like crazy on Westbrook in the 2nd half. Chris Paul lit up Westbrook earlier this year.
WB is a selective defender. When he doesn't try, he gets lit up at the worst times during games. When he's locked in, there are very few that can defend like him. Assuming he makes the Olympic team, watch him put a scare into those Euro PGs since he won't have to worry about scoring. A couple of years ago when Ron Adams was an assistant coach in OKC, WB and Thabo would chew up opposing backcourts and spit them out. Never been like that since.
I know. Your point was that nearly every championship was won by two way players. AFS said that Dirk sucked at defense and won. You called this an anomaly. But both of you guys are focusing on the wrong thing. The mavericks were a defensive team and defense wins championships; and dirk can still suck on defense and get it done. The point is that you don't need your star to be a 2 way player; you need your team to compliment your star. Dallas surrounded dirk with defense, so defense still won the championship and dirk can still be dirk. Confused yet?
82games also says that martin is our best defender. synergy > 82games... they take actual events not assumptions
maybe you didn't interpret it right defensively + numbers are negative... saying the points he gave up - numbers are positive... the points that someone saved
dude you are reading this wrong. a plus # is bad a minus # is good on defense. Not the other way around.
Ya'll are misinterpretting plus minus. That's how his team did as a whole, while he was on the floor. Considering he plays almost every minute except garbage time. It means the opponent's garbage players are not as good offensively as the opponent's starters. A player can miss 90% of his shots and have a positive plus-minus, if his teammates get the rebound and make the 2nd chance point. Short answer: http://www.nesn.com/2011/12/celtics...ready-banged-up-for-first-preseason-game.html Long answer: http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/18/ For defense, you have to examine the defensive possesion. What's the Point Per Possession? Did the play pass the ball, so he didn't score? Is he getting lit up on the pick and roll? Is the player good overall defensively such as Isolation, pick and roll, post up? Or is the player only good at defending certain situations such as the low post or the perimeter? These stats are broken down by each column and row by Synergy sports.
The +- for defense is calculated by how many points an opposing team scores per 100 possessions when Martin is in the game. I don't see how this can get any easier. It includes, pick n roll, pick n pop, defensive isolation; and guess what, you add you all of that stuff individually and it will equal what 82games is showing. Synergy sports stats aren't any better than 82game. The only thing YOUR stats are showing you is what plays Martin sucks at the most on defense. It can tell you things like how teams attack Martin; but the defensive +- remains the same number, regardless.
+/- measures team defense, not individual defense. It would show how the Rockets did with Martin and Lowry, and Scola, and Parsons on the floor. Not how he sucks. I can't take credit for the Synergy sports numbers. They are not my numbers. Though, I wish I owned the company and their data. The synergy sports woudl show that Martin is the defensive gap, while playing with the other 4 starters. While the other 4 starters would show a lower PPP for the player they are guarding. It would break out that plus-minus of the starting lineup. He was usually on the floor with Tyson Chandler. The Mavs as a team were better Chandler in. Chandler and Dirk would leave the floor, the scrubs tookover. Now this season, there is no Chandler. For example, Nowitzki was a -6, last year, but is a -3 now. Did Dirk's impact on defense on drop, or was the team's defense worse with Haywood in the starting lineup in stead of Chandler?
what, Here's a look at the 82 games breakdown by team lineup. I have highlighted a section that shows 3 lineups with Martin and how his poor defense "improves" with this finicky defensive numbers from 82 games. He is at 1.06 in the first lineup. By switching out Jordan Hill with Dalembert he has improved to only 1.02. There is a huge drop to 0.93, when Lee is substituted for Budinger. Durant plays 39 out of 48 minutes a game. The few times that he does rest, is if there is a blow out win. The opponent will empty the bench and put in guys that can't hit the broadside of a barn. At 12 losses for the season, they probably have had more blowout wins than the Rockets.
You're crazy then. You think you can iso Love at the top of the key and he can take his man off the dribble in the Finals to seal the deal like Dirk? Good lord.
