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Kevin Durant out indefinitely with Jones fracture

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Oct 12, 2014.

  1. robbie380

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    http://www.footeducation.com/jones-fracture-5th-metatarsal-stress-fracture

    It's too much to copy and paste on my phone but it is a good read about this fracture. It seems like it is more related to the structure of his foot than anything else.

    I'm kind of worried about his season after reading that.
     
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  2. arno_ed

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    Ok thanks. So very few relevant players and not more irelevant players than other years.
     
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    Houston needs all the luck we can get.

    Let's get off to a good start for now.
     
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    Paul George
     
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    I posted this earlier

    and someone dropped this anonymous gem in my rep

    "Because they are going to be good. Everyone can see but Clutchfans. Truth."
     
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    Since that happens to be Mark Cuban's, uh, cigar, you might want to retract that statement.
     
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    can clutch confirm if marc stein has an account here?
     
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    Lets see if this guy can pick up the slack
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  9. J.R.

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/stor...oklahoma-city-thunder-title-odds-take-hit-nba

    Thunder's title odds take a hit

    The NBA awoke Sunday to the bad news that Oklahoma City Thunder star Kevin Durant has a Jones fracture in the fifth metatarsal in his right foot. The injury to the reigning MVP, which the Thunder said has a typical timetable of 6-8 weeks, has several important ramifications for Oklahoma City and the NBA. Let's take a look at what Durant's absence might mean.

    1. Durant's injury will cost the Thunder approximately 2-3 wins.

    Both my SCHOENE projection system and a projection built on ESPN's real plus-minus estimate Oklahoma City's average win total dropping between two and three wins after accounting for Durant's injury. That seems like a reasonable guess, presuming Durant is able to return within 6-8 weeks, which would translate to something in the range of 15-20 games missed.

    SCHOENE projected Durant as worth nearly 19 wins above replacement player during a full, healthy season. (He was even better during his MVP campaign, posting a league-high 22.8 WARP in 2013-14, but was likely to regress somewhat.) Over 15-20 games, that's approximately 4-5 wins. Of course, the Thunder's replacements are better than replacement level. In particular, they may be able to extend Russell Westbrook's minutes and give more action to backup point guard Reggie Jackson at shooting guard, helping offset the loss of Durant's production.

    The estimate of 2-3 wins is an average. Over such a short period, good or poor luck in close games could translate into Oklahoma City winning as many games as with Durant or seeing a much larger drop-off. The estimate is also contingent on Durant returning as quickly as the Thunder hope. If he misses more than two months, the Thunder could easily drop by 4-5 wins.

    2. A couple of wins might cost Oklahoma City a spot in the standings.

    Besides the possibility of Durant's injury recurring, the biggest concern for the Thunder is how his absence might affect their playoff seeding. Last season, three games separated Oklahoma City and the top-seeded San Antonio Spurs, which decided home-court advantage in the Western Conference finals. In the opposite direction, the Thunder finished just two games ahead of the L.A. Clippers for the No. 2 seed, getting home-court advantage when those teams met in the conference semifinals.

    Even before Durant's injury, SCHOENE put Oklahoma City behind the Spurs and Clippers in the projected Western Conference standings because the Clippers added more during the offseason. Now, the Thunder have to fear slipping all the way into the crowded second tier of West contenders.

    Simulating the 2014-15 schedule can help assess the potentially large impact of Durant's injury. Using seven weeks as a benchmark for his absence, Oklahoma City's chances of claiming home-court advantage in the opening round of the playoffs drop from 82 percent to 59 percent. And even though the Thunder get credit for a healthy Durant in the playoffs, their chances of reaching the NBA Finals go from 18.5 percent to 15.5 percent. The longer Durant misses, the bigger the impact on both of those figures.

    3. Russell Westbrook will be one of the league's leading scorers.

    Last season, the time Westbrook missed following knee surgery helped propel Durant to MVP. Now, Westbrook gets his opportunity to be the team's lone star -- something that has basically never happened in a meaningful situation, since Durant has missed just six games during the last five seasons.

    SCHOENE projects Westbrook improving his scoring rate from 23.1 points per 36 minutes with Durant to 25.7 per 36 in his absence. Add in the possibility that the Thunder could extend Westbrook's minutes to help cover for Durant's absence, and he could easily average 26-plus points per game, which would have put him among the league's top four scorers last season.

    If anything, SCHOENE's projection might understate Westbrook's scoring potential. The system assumes the extra possessions in Durant's absence are split equally. In practice, players like Serge Ibaka, Anthony Morrow and Kendrick Perkins are unlikely to ramp up their usage rates, leaving Westbrook to shoulder a much heavier load. That's what we saw last season with Durant, who used 35.6 percent of Oklahoma City's possessions in games Westbrook missed, as compared to 31.3 percent when they played together.

    Indeed, in the tiny sample of four full games Westbrook has played without Durant -- not counting the 2012-13 season finale, when he played just seven minutes -- he's averaged 26.7 points, per Royce Young. SCHOENE also projects a slight bump to Westbrook's rebound rate, making triple-doubles a more realistic possibility.

    4. The MVP race is either finished or wide open.

    Durant's injury basically takes the reigning MVP out of the running for this year's award. Not counting post-lockout seasons, just one MVP (Bill Walton in 1977-78, when he played 58) has played fewer than 70 games since the schedule went to its current 82-game format. Not even the best-case scenario would get Durant back so soon.

    Over the last three seasons, Durant and LeBron James have received 354 of the 367 first-place votes for MVP. Chris Paul's six first-place votes in 2011-12 are the most for any other player in that span. So Durant's injury could make James an obvious choice ... or open the door for another candidate, like Paul, Stephen Curry or even Westbrook.
     
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    They'll lose 2-3 wins total? 2-3 wins for every 3 games they play maybe.
     
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    Lol. I know clutchfans can get carried away but this season is a real case of mediocre teams getting rated ahead of the Rockets because of who "won" the offseason, almost like Hollinger's power rankings that heavily take into account the last 10 games or whatever, rather than the actual rosters.
     
  12. Liberon

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    There were times when OKC seemed like gods when playing against the Rox. Durant was unstoppable with or without the whistle and Westbrook would do a nightcrawler move in the lanes and reappeared at the rim while scoring. Something about playing always gives me the creep moreso than any of the Miami or San Antonia championship teams ever will.
     
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    Westbrook will hold in down in KD's absence. When he returns they will still be a top 4 seed. Westbrook will average around 28.
     
  14. Liberon

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    To be honest, the backup OKC pg, Reggie Jackson, was better than Bev and Lin put together during the 2013 PlayOffs. I just wonder how come the Rox can't pick up a Jrue Holiday or Reggie Jackson type of pg let alone as a backup. Jeeze.
     
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    never would have happened with Under Armour.
     
  16. Liberon

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    Now you really start to appreciate guys like Shaq and Lebron. Tons of mileage on them bones with a bunch of games played but yet no bone fractures. The true superhumans of our times. If Shaq had Lebron's work ethic and weighed much less, he would have a 30 yr tenure and still be going strong at this moment.
     
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    well..thats one way to write a tweet. completely defeats the purpose of 140 character limit.
     
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    wholly **** not good. Westbrook is gonna take at least 35 shots a game
     
  19. robbie380

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    He's gonna need surgery. Chico is hearing this from his sources.
     
  20. RoxBeliever

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    oh not, brings back sad memories

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jones fracture that could keep Kevin Durant out for 6-8 weeks is injury that ended Yao Ming's season in '06 when collided with Okur in Utah.</p>&mdash; Jonathan Feigen (@Jonathan_Feigen) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/521319535933018112">October 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    I pray KD gets healed up. He still needs to play for us alongside Harden.
     

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