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Kenneth Faried to sign with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mikol13, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    No I posted Carmelo's best season and Faried's worst season rebounding. In fact, every single season of Faried's career he has been a better rebounder than Carmelo's best rebounding season. Anthony is a rebounding liability, Faried is an elite rebounder. They are not kinda sorta in the same range.

    Both their careers are downward spiraling but it's for different reasons. Melo won't do what he needs to stop the spiral, Faried can't do what he needs. They are the opposite of 3&d players.

    Would still love to hear/see how these two are similar rolling to the basket as you mentioned.
     
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    Never said they were similar but come to think of it, Melo needs the ball in his hands.

    I was thinking of the PnR as a generic play that can be executed with Melo as the roll guy too but I forgot he tried to be more of an initiator than the executor.

    It was a thought bubble, nothing more. Just two guys on minimum contracts.

    About that whole rebounding affair, Melo always prided himself to be one of the better rebounding SFs, tweeners.

    Well, he wasn't a specialist like the Manimal.
     
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    How exactly has rebounding not been his strong suit? He's consistently been a very good rebounder on a per minute basis.

    His defensive awareness has always been bad, so I'm not over the moon about him helping us long term. But his rebounding and ability to finish above the rim is desperately needed right now.
     
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    To be fair, rebounding has always been his strongest point. Not sure we're talking about the same player? He used to play on the Nuggets, went by the name "Manimal."
     
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    Faried will help tremendously. First, he's probably the best rim runner in the league. The Rockets offense is predicated off this for spacing. Second, he runs the court well for a big man. This will help speed the offense up & create early opportunities. Third he's active on the boards. I can't see how this doesn't work. I just hope they give him more than 10 games without cutting him (see Melo)
     
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    As long as the run plays for him I could see faried being a monster in the offense, a good rebounder and getting abused on defense. Take what we can get.
     
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    I don't think cp will allow him to suck on defense. Even if he's not playing, he's still gonna get on him for slacking on d.
     
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    To be fair, we are already being abused in the paint on defense, so really it's going to be nice to get his offensive output since it will give Harden that Capela component back.
     
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    Yeah not similar at all though I do see one common problem: both are liabilities in a switching scheme. I haven’t watched faried play in years so I don’t really know where’s he at now, but he was never someone could guard the perimeter and make rotations. However, and I know Melo fans will hate this, Melo is one of the worst defensive players in the league by far. His stats showed him to be worse than Ryan Anderson. Faried May be a liability but I don’t think he’ll be Melo bad lol
     
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    Yeah that’s my point. Hope they run some action with him to take advantage of his strengths
     
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    I'm excited about the signing just because it gives Harden that vertical spacing he needs in the offensive sets. Faried is going to be scoring 12-14 ppg just because Harden is going to find him so easily on run outs, on the pick and roll and on lobs.

    Defensively he doesn't help, but let's face it, our paint defense has not been very good anyways, so I'll take any offensive help that will open up the court for Harden.
     
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    When Faried was playing meaningful minutes, switching wasn't happening this often in the NBA. We do know he was positionally terrible despite great effort. What I've learned from Ennis is that in a switching scheme you generally would rather have a positionally sound guy than a high intensity one. I doubt he'd be a bigger liability switching onto smaller guys than Nene or Hartenstein though. The bigger problem is that he doesn't stand out on switches, nor does he on man to man coverage.

    We're a bit spoiled by Capela, there are a handful of people who can avoid being embarrassed in that situation and he is one of them. For an alternate backup C signed to the minimum after a playoff-chasing team waived him, you really would be fine with one great skill. Faried has that plus he has the potential to run a decent pick and roll, though I think people will be surprised at how he will actually not be able to get as open as Capela in a controlled PnR. Most of his alley oops would come from backdoor cuts when his defender forgets him. In a Harden-initiated PnR, he is so short that teams will often successfully deny everything but the lob - which is not always available. Capela does more than just get lobs, he is a receiving target from the moment he rolls till the last moment of Harden's drive.

    As far as comparing to Melo, I think Melo would be a perfectly fine alternate backup if he sincerely accepted the role and made plays that got the team in rhythm rather than always focusing on his own mediocre rhythm. I doubt Faried will have the same ego issues, and frankly I doubt it would matter much if we had to shelve him when Capela's back.
     
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    One of the keys of this signing will be to help Nene’s health.

    Old man is on the verge of another big maintenance if he keeps this kind of minutes up.

    Keeping Nene healthy will help this team more in the playoffs.
     
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    If you don’t mind, I see your sig and want to ask you about it. If I’m putting you on the spot and you don’t wish to comment I understand! And I’ve been waiting for a “legalization” thread in d&d so maybe I’ll just take it there but here goes...

    I literally know all of one person who thinks the cannabis has no value and should remain illegal indefinitely, and he fits a few unpleasant categories. My question for you, is with legalization seeming imminent (even for Texas)...how do you go about determining what’s right to prosecute? Like, he’s got no priors and he got caught doing something that a lot of people do, that most people have done and that even more don’t have a problem with. So he only got probation? To me, something in there doesn’t quite add up.
     
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    The Braid Brigade jumps off the bench to the rescue! Nene, Faried, even Gerald!
     
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    Honestly, I don’t know what happened in Faried’s case. It’s possible they dropped the charges but I think it said he had 2 ounces (I think?) that’s kind of hard to ignore. To answer your question though, if someone has no history and they clearly only had enough for personal use, prosecutors would typically offer a sweetheart deal. I’m an Arkansan prosecutor, but we have Act 346 wherein first-time offenders can have their convictions expunged as soon as they serve their sentence; i.e. we give dude a year of probation, once that’s up it’ll be off his record

    Sometimes we suspend a sentence, meaning they don’t even have to meet with a probation officer but if they get arrested during their suspended sentence, they’re subject to have it revoked. Sometimes fines are given. Misdemeanors aren’t in my wheelhouse per se because I try felony cases, but I’ve reduced plenty of charges down to misdemeanors before. We have a lot of discretion when it comes to what/how/if we charge someone, and there’s a lot that goes into plea negotiations. A study found that nationwide 94% of cases end in a plea rather than going to trial. Seems accurate
     
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    This guy is upset that your "tough" Rockets lineup doesn't include him:

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    Haha. You’re right. My bad. Brain fart
     
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    Faried isn’t the player he was early in his career as a Nugget, but he’s only 29 and can still play.

    Once Denver signed Millsap and traded for Trey Lyles, the writing was on the wall for him there. Brooklyn only traded for him to gain an asset in exchange for taking his expiring contract off the Nuggets hands. He was never in Brooklyn’s plans this season, and only played when injuries piled up in the Nets frontcourt.
     
  20. rockbox

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    His per 36 minute and per 100 possessions are actually higher the last 2 seasons than any prior season. He's exactly the same player he once was. He just doesn't get the playing time. Watch his numbers go through the roof playing with Harden. He's never played with a passer like Harden.

    As I stated before in a prior post. Watch him be paired up with Hartenstein for a little bit. Hartenstein will sit in the corner where Tucker stands and Faried being the primary picker and roll man for Harden.
     
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