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Josh Smith's 3pt% last season would be 3rd best on team this season. Jones has highest 3pt% this sea

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Nov 26, 2015.

  1. bmd

    bmd Member

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    Such a weird shooting year. The player with the highest 3 point shooting percentage is Terrence Jones, at 42.1%.

    Big drop off to the second-best shooter, Jason Terry... who is shooting 33.3%

    Josh Smith was at 33% last season.

    Then we got:

    Thornton: 32.4%
    Beverley: 30.4%
    Ariza: 30.0%
    Harden: 29.0%
    Lawson: 25.0%
    Brewer: 20.9%




    The Rockets have problems.. but they are exacerbated by just unbelievably bad 3-point shooting. The 5 players who take the most 3's on the team are all shooting 30.4% or less from 3.

    The simple fact of basketball is that if you can't make your shots, you will have a hard time winning games.
     
  2. YaoMing#1

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    This is true but what a lot of people don't want to here is that all those players besides harden have never shot above 35% for 3 in their career outside of ariza one year in Washington. I expect them to eventually get better but how much? I don't think it will be that big a a jump in all
    Honesty.
     
  3. bmd

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    Terry has had 14 seasons shooting better than 35% from 3.

    4 of Thornton's 6 seasons he's shot over 35% from 3.

    5 of Lawson's 6 seasons he's shot over 35% from 3. Last year was his only year he didn't shoot over 35% from 3, and he was at 34%.

    Beverley has played 3 seasons, and has shot over 35% from 3 in every season.

    Ariza has shot over 35% from 3 in his previous 3 seasons... including nearly 41% one season in Washington.





    So they are all shooting way below their averages. Not just one or two people. They ALL are shooting very poorly right now.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Because they all STAND around waiting for Krampus Harden to massage the ball and gift them the honor of getting a slow lobby pass for a contested 3pt shot.

    The problem starts and ends with Harden.

    DD
     
  5. MistaK

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    Not true. Thornton has had several seasons shooting above 35%, in fact is over 36% for his career. Ariza has had one season in Washington shooting 40% from 3 if I'm not mistaken and one shooting 36% and last year was average at 35% and is about 35% for his career. Same goes for Lawson who I believe is close to 37% from 3 for his career and has had plenty of seasons shooting better than 36% from 3. Even Beverly is about 36% from 3 for his career.

    I expect them to start shooting better at some point - at least I hope so. A team can't keep shooting this poorly for much longer, can they?!
     
  6. MistaK

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    Sorry this really isn't the issue at all. Not everything is Harden's fault. They get plenty, PLENTY of wide open looks from Harden driving and kicking. I've just NEVER seen a team brick that many open shots in my entire life.

    Also they do much of the same (i.e: standing around) when Harden is on the bench. You can't really blame Harden for everything. Matter of fact in the MEM game, Harden was pretty much the only one moving around without the ball.

    Does Harden have the ball in his hands for too long sometimes - sure. But that's what happens when you only have ONE player on the team who can create for himself and others.
     
  7. J Sizzle

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    The Rockets have about half of their rotation shooting career worst percentages from the field.

    It's beyond weird. It's genuinely unbelievable.
     
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    Trevor Ariza
    This year: .300(30-100)
    Last year: .350(194-555)
    Career: .346(797-2305)

    Patrick Beverley
    This year: .304(7-23)
    Last year: .356(115-323)
    Career: .359(250-697)

    Corey Brewer
    This year: .209(9-43)
    Last year(HOU only): .284(55-194)
    Career: .287(379-1320)

    James Harden
    This year: .290(40-138)
    Last year: .375(208-555)
    Career: .366(924-2526)

    Terrence Jones
    This year: .421(19-34)
    Last year: .351(57-94)
    Career: .324(57-176)

    Ty Lawson
    This year: .250(9-36)
    Last year: .341(70-205)
    Career: .365(412-1129)
    *3PT% has gone down every year

    K.J. McDaniels
    This year: .167(1-6)
    Last year(PHI only): .293(43-147)
    Career: .282(44-156)

    Jason Terry
    This year: .333(16-48)
    Last year: .390(126-323)
    Career: .380(2092-5511)

    Marcus Thornton
    This year: .324(24-74)
    Last year: .377(54-143)
    Career: .361(640-1775)
     
  9. bmd

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    They get plenty of open looks, first of all. Secondly, Harden played that way last year and it was fine.

    The whole purpose of an offense is to help create open shots. The Rockets have gotten plenty of open shots. They just keep bricking them. Everyone is bricking.
     
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    At first I was mad. Then I was sad. Now it's hilarious.
     
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    God you are so unbearably dumb
     
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    When Harden doesn't have the ball, his off-ball movement is so poor that his defender is actually not really worrying about him, thus can cut off other play-making that may occur. Harden is often out of the picture, nowhere in a position to score. That is a problem.

    But no, not everything is Harden's fault. But dang it, a lot of it still is.
     
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    HOT TAKES!!!!
    GET YOUR HOT TAKES!!!!![​IMG]
     
  14. swyyyguy

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    dang, these facts will make people on here MAD.

    i love j-smoove. i wish he never left.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Yes, that must be it. Do you have anything else you would like to add to this intelligent conversation.

    I mean you have been following me around baiting me - so say what you have to say.

    Get it out, let r rip.

    Then try, and I mean really try, to understand how leadership and human nature work - one day - hopefully sooner than later, you will understand more than what you do now...good luck as you grow up.

    DD
     
  16. SamFisher

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    No, the problem ends with the guys who miss the shots which are contested, and which are also uncontested.

    The Rockets are 7th in the league in "wide open" 3's as a percentage of total 3 point FGA.

    The Rockets are 25th in the league in "wide open" 3 point FG%.

    In fact, nearly half the league is better at shooting closely guarded three pointers than the Rockets are at shooting wide open three pointers.

    That is a mind-bending stat.
     
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  17. kevtse

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    It's all about shot selection.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Some are uncontested for sure but the standing around is part of the problem too, we don't have a cohesive plan on offense.

    Movement off the ball, getting everyone involved.

    That being said, far and away the biggest problem is the roster Morey assembled, of weak shooters....you can't build a 3pt shooting team with lousy 3pt shooters.

    DD
     

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