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Jews Fear for their lives in Europe. Moving to Israel in record numbers.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Turkey was definitely at the top relative to other Islamic countries primarily because of it's relative secularism.

    I'm quite confident in assuming that the lead scientists and mathematicians from the Islamic world between the 9th and 14th century were more secular than the general populace.
     
  2. Nook

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    Where did he say that Muslims are genetically inferior ?
     
  3. Nook

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    Nope.... You live in a fantasy world.
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    He was making a blanket statement about how Jewish people are better than Muslims by using the number of Nobel prize winners as an example. But using the Nobel prize as a measuring stick of an ethnoreligious group's superiority is dishonest.

    edit: and why not?

    Christian Nobel prize winners 423
    Jewish Nobel prize winners 170
    Atheist Nobel winners 74
    Muslim Nobel prize winners 12
    Hindu Nobel winners 8
     
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  5. Nook

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    So he didn't say Muslims were genetically inferior and you choose to make that leap? You are aware that he was born and raised as a Muslim and his family, including his mother still practicing Muslims?

    How about drawing the logical inference that it is cultural.
     
  6. Honey Bear

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    Well... these are the facts.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...to-appalling-disabilities-among-children.html

    That's just one muslim community where information was made public.

    You won't have productive citizens of society, let alone nobel peace winners and brilliant minds, if you're trailer park through and through.
     
  7. bongman

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    Just to add a little context to the numbers. 250K people left France last year due to economic reasons. We cannot ignore that as one of the factors for leaving.
     
  8. Nook

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    Of course.... The taxes are high, there is a certain level of civil unrest, conflicts between long term French residents and immigrants and a high cost of living. It is very hard to accurately measure the exact influence that causes people to leave a country... Even in Germany prior to World War II there were a large number of Jews leaving, how many for financial reasons? How many for blatant anti-semitism?
     
  9. Ubiquitin

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    I did not say he was calling Jewish people genetically superior, but he was saying they were superior. Culture is innate for a generation of a population, but it's not entirely cultural either, though. The smartest people from a Muslim majority country are just as capable of winning a Nobel prize, but they lack the infrastructure to perform the high end research.

    And this is getting too far off track.

    I am glad this is the response from the French Government:
    "On Monday, Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian announced that 10,000 military troops would be deployed to protect “sensitive sites” throughout France. In addition, 4,700 police officers will protect Jewish schools and synagogues."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/o...ews-question-their-future-in-france.html?_r=0
     
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    To be expected I suppose that as Israel increasingly becomes the right wing beacon of the world that a crude McCarthyite like legend would become the fan of Israel right or wrong.

    If true it is a shame the some Jews in Europe are moving to Israel for misguided reasons of safety, not to mention justice, when the facts are that they would be better off remaining in Europe.

    Of course we did have Bibi going to Europe and trying to scare Jews into doing so. So far I think Bibi has hesitated to publicly proclaim that American Jews need to do so for similar reasons.
     
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    Yeah I'd be surprised if anyone who hadn't done so to date was now moving to Israel for safety. Not logical, even in the safer parts of Israel at the moment. Maybe Deji can inform us better.

    What does make sense to me is that this would happen for tax reasons or gov't benefits and these people are not physically moving, rather just changing their legal address.

    It's not uncommon for people to give up their passport to escape taxes, I've seen that happen very commonly especially with Americans and FATCA for example.

    What also may be contributing to this is the incredible fear mongering taking place in Europe right now.
     
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    he talk about moral a thing you cant really understand it.

    and you talk about saftey & taxes.

    Are you concerned about their bank account and dental coverage lol this is extreme toqiya
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    You are such a Jew.

    <iframe height="288" width="512" src="http://www.reuters.com/assets/iframe/yovideo?videoId=367198334"></iframe>
     
  15. Deji McGever

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    First-cousin marriages aren't a Muslim thing as much as they are a Pakistani-Briton thing. I don't know any Arabs that married cousins. It's seriously ****ed up though, especially when you consider that a first cousin is as much genetically similar to you as your own children.

    It's also pretty facepalm-worthy when you consider that London is the most ethnically diverse city on the planet. No other place offers that potential genetic diversity to the old family tree.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    Deji, you are really misinformed there. In Qatar, at least 35 % of marriages are first-cousin marriages (in reality, probably a lot more), and if you were to examine the geographical overlap of this practice with the percentage of Muslims in the country, you would see a very strong statistical correlation which is not coincidental.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...in-marriages-come-under-scrutiny-7626995.html
     
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  17. Hydhypedplaya

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    90% of Qatar's population are foreign workers (Nepalis, Indians, Sri Lankans, Filipinos).
     
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    I didn't realize the practice was so widespread in the Gulf as well -- I thought it was a first-generation immigrant issue for Pakistanis in the UK (which the British press writes about often). It should be illegal -- besides being cruel to the children born in these marriages, it creates a huge burden to society.
     
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    Whether it's native Qataris or foreign workers doing it, it's still terrible.
     
  20. Hydhypedplaya

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    I agree with that. Was just pointing out that using an Arab nation as an example when the majority of its population is non-Arab is not really valid.

    This is way off topic though and we can thank Honey Bear for that.
     

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