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Jewish Girls Dating Arabs Need Psychologists to Help Them Date Only Jews

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  1. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

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    Israel's Fear of Jewish Girls Dating Arabs; Team of Psychologists to "Rescue" Women

    By Jonathan Cook, AlterNet. Posted September 25, 2009.



    Youth counselors and psychologists are going after young Jewish women who are dating Arab men to "rescue" them. Tools


    Roane Carey
    A local authority in Israel has announced that it is establishing a special team of youth counselors and psychologists whose job it will be to identify young Jewish women who are dating Arab men and "rescue" them.

    The move by the municipality of Petah Tikva, a city close to Tel Aviv, is the latest in a series of separate -- and little discussed -- initiatives from official bodies, rabbis, private organisations and groups of Israeli residents to try to prevent interracial dating and marriage.

    In a related development, the Israeli media reported this month that residents of Pisgat Zeev, a large Jewish settlement in the midst of Palestinian neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem, had formed a vigilante-style patrol to stop Arab men from mixing with local Jewish girls.

    Hostility to intimate relationships developing across Israel's ethnic divide is shared by many Israeli Jews, who regard such behaviour as a threat to the state's Jewishness. One of the few polls on the subject, in 2007, found that more than half of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage should be equated with "national treason."

    Since the state's founding in 1948, analysts have noted, a series of legal and administrative measures have been taken by Israel to limit the possibilities of close links developing between Jewish and Arab citizens, the latter comprising a fifth of the population.

    Largely segregated communities and separate education systems mean that there are few opportunities for young Arabs and Jews to get to know each other. Even in the handful of "mixed cities", Arab residents are usually confined to separate neighborhoods.

    In addition, civil marriage is banned in Israel, meaning that in the small number of cases where Jews and Arabs want to wed, they can do so only by leaving the country for a ceremony abroad. The marriage is recognized on the couple's return.

    Yuval Yonay, a sociologist at Haifa University, said the number of interracial marriages was "too small to be studied." "Separation between Jews and Arabs is so ingrained in Israeli society, it is surprising that anyone manages to escape these central controls."

    The team in Petah Tikva, a Jewish city of 200,000 residents, was created in direct response to news that two Jewish girls, aged 17 and 19, were accompanying a group of young Arab men when they allegedly beat a Jewish man, Leonard Karp, to death last month on a Tel Aviv beach. The older girl was from Petah Tikva.

    The girls' involvement with the Arab youths has revived general concern that a once-firm taboo against interracial dating is beginning to erode among some young people.

    In sentiments widely shared, Hezi Hakak, a spokesman for Petah Tikva municipality, said "Russian girls" -- young Jewish women whose parents arrived in Israel over the past two decades, since the collapse of the former Soviet Union -- were particularly vulnerable to the attention of Arab men.

    Dr Yonay said Russian women were less closed to the idea of relationships with Arab men because they "did not undergo the religious and Zionist education" to which more established Israeli Jews were subject.

    Mr Hakak said the municipality had created a hotline that parents and friends of the Jewish women could use to inform on them.

    "We can't tell the girls what to do but we can send a psychologist to their home to offer them and their parents advice," he said.

    Motti Zaft, the deputy mayor, told the Ynet website that the municipality was also cracking down on city homeowners who illegally subdivide apartments to rent them cheaply to single Arab men looking for work in the Tel Aviv area. He estimated that several hundred Arab men had moved into the city as a result.

    Petah Tikva's hostility to Arab men mixing with local Jewish women is shared by other communities.

    In Pisgat Zeev, a settlement of 40,000 Jews, some 35 Jewish men are reported to belong to a patrol known as "Fire for Judaism" that tries to stop interracial dating.

    One member, who identified himself as Moshe to the Jerusalem Post newspaper, said: "Our goal is to be in contact with these girls and try to explain to them the dangers of what they're getting themselves into. In the last 10 years, 60 girls from Pisgat Zeev have gone into [Palestinian] villages [in the West Bank]. And most of them aren't heard from after that."

    He denied that violence or threats were used against Arab men.

    Last year, the municipality of Kiryat Gat, a town of 50,000 Jews in southern Israel, launched a programme in schools to warn Jewish girls of the dangers of dating local Bedouin men. The girls were shown a video titled Sleeping with the Enemy, which describes mixed couples as an "unnatural phenomenon."

    Haim Shalom, head of the municipality's welfare department, is filmed saying: "The girls, in their innocence, go with the exploitative Arab." A police representative also warns that the Bedouin men's "goal is to take advantage of the girls. There is no element of love or an innocent friendly relationship here."

    In 2004, posters sprang up all over the northern town of Safed warning Jewish women that dating Arab men would lead to "beatings, hard drugs, prostitution and crime."

    Safed's chief rabbi, Shmuel Eliyahu, told a local newspaper that the "seducing" of Jewish girls was "another form of war" by Arab men.

    Both Kiryat Gat and Safed's campaigns were supported by a religious organisation called Yad L'achim, which runs an anti-assimilation team publicly dedicated to "saving" Jewish women.

    According to its website, the organisation receives more than 100 calls a month about Jewish women living with Arab men, both in Israel and the West Bank. It launches "military-like rescues [of the women] from hostile Arab villages" in co-ordination with the police and army.

    "The Jewish soul is a precious, all-too-rare resource, and we are not prepared to give up on even a single one," says the website.

    Yad L'achim's founder, Rabbi Shlomo Dov Lifschitz, is quoted on the site saying: "People must understand that Jewish-Arab marriages are part of the larger Israeli-Arab conflict. They [Arab men] see it as their goal to marry them [Jewish women] and ensure that their childen aren't raised as Jews. This is their revenge against the Jewish people. They feel that if they can't defeat us in war, they can wipe us out this way."

    The degree of general opposition in Israel to interracial marriage was suggested by a government-backed television ad campaign earlier this month that urged Israeli Jews to inform on relatives abroad who were in danger of marrying a non-Jew. The ads were hastily withdrawn by surprised Israeli officials after many US Jews took offence.

    In her book Birthing the Nation, Rhoda Kanaaneh, a Middle East scholar at New York University, points out that "politicians frequently attack 'peace' or 'dialogue' programs for promoting miscegenation" in fear that it will lead to Jewish assimilation.

    She also notes that Israel's adoption and surrogacy laws require that adoptive parents be of the same ethnic group as the biological mother.

    http://www.alternet.org/world/142900/israel's_fear_of_jewish_girls_dating_arabs%3B_team_of_psychologists_to_%22rescue%22_women_/?comments
     
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    Trust me, they need psychologists to undo the damage their mothers caused. Try dating them :p let them have arab boyfriends LOL
     
  3. Refman

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    Imagine that. Who would have thunk it? A parent wouldn't want their child to date a member of an ethnic group they view (rightly or wrongly) as an enemy.

    I can't fathom why this could happen.

    In related news, Jews don't want their daughters dating German men. Film at 11.
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    They are worried that their secret nefarious "aphrodisiac gum" plot to corrupt Palestinian youth might blow-back on the Jewish girls.

    [rquoter]

    Hamas says Israel dumping aphrodisiac gum on Gaza

    (AFP) – Jul 14, 2009

    GAZA CITY (AFP) — Hamas suspects that Israeli intelligence services are supplying its Gaza Strip stronghold with chewing gum that boosts the sex drive in order to "corrupt the young," an official said on Tuesday.

    "We have discovered two types of stimulants that were introduced into the Gaza Strip from Israeli border crossings," Hamas police spokesman Islam Shahwan told AFP.

    "The first type is presented in the form of chewing gum and the second in the form of drops," he said.

    The Islamist movement that has run the densely populated and impoverished Palestinian territory for the past two years said it has detained members of a gang that helped to bring in the products.

    "They admitted during the investigation they were linked to the Zionist intelligence services," he said.

    One suspect said he had received the products from an Israeli intelligence officer at a cut-rate price "with the officer saying they did not want money, but to distribute the products among the young people of Gaza," Shahwan said.

    "The intelligence services are aiming to corrupt the young generation by distributing these products among students."

    The story came to light after a Palestinian man filed a complaint that his daughter had experienced "dubious side effects" after chewing the offending gum, Israeli media reported.

    The Israeli military declined to comment officially on the allegations, which one military source termed "absurd."

    [/rquoter]
     
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  5. pippendagimp

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    This is the kind of **** our billions in aid and military donations goes towards :confused:

    Israeli "Defense" Forces saving the souls of Jewish girls who felt like hooking up with the wrong race??

    This **** is more important than spending that $$$ on the litany of real problems our own citizens are dealing w/ back home? :mad:
     
  6. Ari

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    So they are worried about them 'Russian girls' huh? :rolleyes: I wish all Jews were as open minded and enlightened as those Russian Jews that are being 'corrupted' by the Arab men.

    It is getting harder and harder to defend that sort of mentality inside Israel. That whole article reads like a White supremacist's nightmare tale of his daughter dating a negro from the South :eek:

    The problem is a fifth of Israel are ethnic Arabs, so short of vigilantism (read a Jewish KKK) or outright segregation of the races within Israel proper how can the Jews in Israel prevent their women from being 'corrupted' by the evil Arab men? Not to mention that this sort of view should appall all Israeli feminists because it seeks to paint women as weak and impressionable and in need of 'protection' by society.

    Those Middle Easterners are a bunch of backwards nuts, I tell ya
     
  7. Ari

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    Hilarious! :D

    But in all seriousness: would this not contribute to a population explosion among Palestinians? How is contributing to Palestinians having more sex and even more kids in line with Israeli interests? Israelis are on record decrying this impending demographic time bomb.
     
  8. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    UH can't stop the run at all. I expect Tech to keep exploiting this.
     
  9. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    Arg. My bad...wrong thread.
     
  10. Dairy Ashford

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    The problem is that religious and municipal institutions are doing this in 2009, in a nation that presents itself as more tolerant and progressive than those in it's immediate vicinity; a country whose formation was borne as a remedy to social and ethnic persecution. An Israel that insists upon Western support at the expense of the entire group of countries that surround it should not be doing this, period.
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    They fundimentally exist to be a Jewish ethnic state.
     
  12. rimrocker

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    Two households, both alike in dignity,
    In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
    From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
    Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
    From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
    A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
     
  13. Nook

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    Israel is one of the most corrupt and racist nations on this earth. The rest of the world sees it, but not the USA.
     
  14. manbearpig

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    If a muslim woman marries a non-muslim, isn't the punishment death?

    I can't see anything wrong with what Israel is doing.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    Funny how glynch doesn't mention that.
     
  16. Dairy Ashford

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    I'm pretty sure you can do a quickie pre-wedding conversion if the in-laws are cool with it. My father had a long-term engineering gig with Bechtel in Algeria from '95 - '97 and married his secretary there (23 years his junior). He mentioned in passing once that he had to convert to Islam to facilitate the marriage and even mentioned his Muslim name, "Al-Malik" or something. Other than using a local Halal butcher, Mr. Gin-and-Tonic didn't do anything remotely Islamic for the 3-4 years they were married.
     
  17. BetterThanEver

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    That's so funny, if it's true!

    They have taken the old 60's slogan "Make Love, Not War" to a whole new level.
     
  18. Ari

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    So Israel should aspire to be like the Taliban? :confused:

    "so what they are bad too"! I never understood this logic. Israel is supposed to be an enlightened secular state. We should not drag ourselves down by reciprocating fanaticism.
     
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    I'm no longer amazed at the level of Israel bashing that takes place in here.
     
  20. glynch

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    So now we are saying that Israel is no better than fundamentalist muslims and that is sufficient. I thought the whole point of all the special treatment was that they were so democratic and fair compared to the fundamentalist muslims.

    I think that just like whites are not inhererently racist, but the apartheid system in South Africa led many whites to act racistly and support a racist system, we have many of the Jews in Israel starting to follow the same pattern. It is certanily not in line with what we hold dear in the US.

    I would think that more aware supporters of Israel would see the fallacy of the path that Israel has set out on.
     

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