We all know the Jazz are going to be bounced in the 1st/2nd round of the playoffs just like every year. Quin Snyder is not the problem, it's Rudy Gobert. Easy to expose him in the playoffs.
That argument doesn't match up. Giannis, himself, developed into an all-around player - something that Gobert can never ever do, or want to do. Plus, Giannis had the best two-way PG in the game (all-star), one of the better SGs in the game (all-star), a 5 who could drag out the Goberts of the world to the 3 point line and a team with a lot of depth. Bucks didn't randomly get a break and won it all. They bet the farm on Holiday and it paid off. The Jazz's roster is most definitely not the Bucks' championship roster.
lol nice try but nothing in the world is exactly the same as the other thing, otherwise it would be the same thing of course there are some difference but basically narrative was the same, chokers, regular season wonders and not a real championship caliber playoffs team BUT if irving doesnt role the ankle vs bucks we have the exact same narrative for now already crowned the championship bucks and 2 way player yanis...they would have cemented their status as regular season wonders/playoffs losers also if donovan doesn't get hurt late in clippers series jazz might have gone to the finals luck is the biggest factor in teams/stars ending being labeled as champions and/or failures
the Jazz are a joke as per usual 4th best point differential in the NBA, yet nobody takes them seriously
Imagine trying to argue against my point by typing out things past this first sentence. You're literally agreeing with my point about how the Bucks' championship team is not the same as any iteration of a Jazz roster, even now. So I'm not sure what you're trying to do, by bringing up the Bucks, when talking about the Jazz. The whole 'luck' argument is another conversation entirely...and the Jazz are going to need a lot more than luck if they want to win anything.
When drama like "Donovan doesn't pass to Rudy" or "Rudy thinks he should be DPOY" grabs the headlines, versus something like "how far can the Jazz go?" that's when you know no one thinks you have a shot.
The Jazz' modern playoff legacy is: Getting humiliated by Stephen Curry x2 Getting humiliated by James Harden x2 Getting humiliated by Nikola Jokic (blown 3-1 lead special!) And being the first team to let the Clippers in the WCF. The only teams Utah beat were the broken down Lob City Clippers, Russell Westbrook and Playoff P (LOL), and an injured 8th seed Memphis team. Every year the playoffs show that if you put out a lineup of 5 passable periemiter defenders, you're done in 5 games.
You need a top 5 player to win a chip unless you are the ‘04 Pistons (the exception that proves the rule.) The Jazz do not have a top 5 player. Thus the Jazz are regularly bounced in the playoffs by teams that do have one. (Harden, Curry) Like the Blazers with Dame or Nuggets with Jokic you just hope your all star becomes that guy. (Happened with Giannis after all). It doesn’t seem like Mitchell will become that guy though.
It's so funny when the feud are between two fringe all stars both thinking they are the shet. When you have a team that doesn't have a MVP type player, you have to rely on chemistry and cohesion.
If Westbrook and Wall can get traded, an actually productive Gobert should be pretty easy to move if they wanted to, even if he's not worth his salary.
Will the Jazz continue using center Rudy Gobert to guard F Dorian Finney-Smith? “I don't know,” Dorian said. “If they do, then I know I'll probably going to get a bunch of threes. I hope he guards me so I can get some shots. But I'll just take whatever the defense give us.” nobody respects the Jazz…everybody views Gobert as an easy mark
