Jason Smith Flagrant on Griffin+Hornets Clips Confrontations

I agree that it wasn't malicious and that it was a flagrant 1. A hard playoff foul. I don't agree that you think players should stop fast breaks by jumping in front of players without being set. That's dangerous. If you can't get there on time then oh yell, they get the dunk. It happens.

You can easily stop the fast break dunk and take the clear path foul by grabbing his arm and wrapping him up. Players do that all the time but they don't give shoulder shoves.

 

Do you not understand the difference between when a player is on the ground and when a player is up in the air? The latter is a LOT more dangerous. If you want to injure a guy, hit, pull, or undercut him while he's in the air. If you just want to give some pain, slam him when he is on his feet.

Smith hit Griffin's shoulder. That kind of collision happens all the time in soccer and it rarely results in injury. BTW, Griffin rammed his shoulder into Scola's ribs the other night. That was more dangerous (although not much) while it looked less vicious.

 

It was a foul, but back then men acted like men and came out swinging instead of laying on the ground acting like a vagina.

 

This only looks bad imo bc blake griffin went into automatic flop mode soon as the contact came...**** was a flagrant 1 AT BEST. Don't drink the flop koolaid

 

In soccer, that play would be legal.

Blake is a little girl with pig tails. Was it a foul? Definitely. Its just Blake decided to make the most of it. Flop city lives.

 

he was just tackling to prevent first down

 

Blake did what he was supposed to, which is go strong to the hole. The defender being out of position for a charge or to defend makes it even more reasonable he went to the basket in a straight line. Smith cutting him off like that was basically like blindsiding someone or running a stop sign into traffic.

Blake may flop (like everyone else in the nba these days) but he got hit damn hard this play and the reason he only appeared to embellish because he rolled with the shot so as to limit the damage from the fall.

 

Blake Griffin is a p***y. He needs to grow a sack and stop acting like a teenage little girl playing ball with men.

How you gonna act all hard when you dunk on someone and then act like you got decked when in reality he was nudged by a guy that weighs less than him.

That's all I have to say about that.

 

get er done MORRAY

 

These players today are so soft. If you play them tough and scrappy they get offended. Then, when you deliver a message that you will not tolerate their douchiness..they cannot handle a hard foul. If you're going to dish out douchebaggery you better be able to take it.

Nba divas, a little humility to the beautiful game that naismith invented won't kill ya. now go get your man servants to cut up your steaks.

I'm not even saying that the nba is not the place to showboat. Showboating has been around since, well, forever. The blimp would dunk over people point at the dunkee and then point back at himself like ted dibiase, the million dollar man. But after he got decked a couple of times for his antics, he toned it down for his standards. The blimp went on to having many many kids and eventually ate himself out of the league.

 

Exactly. If this was the 80s and 90s, that would have been a hard foul, and Griffin would have gotten his free throws. Of course, if this was the 80s or early 90s, Griffin wouldn't have laid there like he got shot, either. He would have popped up, and either walked to the free throw line, or gotten in Smith's face.

However, I agree with the assessment that a Flagrant was warranted....even and in-game ejection. A suspension would be over the line, but Stern is a star-loving ****ing prick, so I wouldn't be surprised if Smith gets multiple games. If this was Lowry that got hit, it would've barely qualified as a foul.

 

..but the problem is the guy walks out trying to pump up the crowd which is just despicable behavior and shows us what his mindframe was the entire time

 

Big difference when you hit a guy on the ground versus a guy in the air. You really can't compare those two. Once a player is in the air a lot more can go wrong (see Andrew Bogut breaking his arm)


Anyway, this was not a basketball play by Smith. A clear ejection and 1 game suspension IMO.

 

Granted, I do not watch soccer, but I do not get all the soccer comparisons. This kind of play happens in football and hockey all the time as well. It still doesn't mean anything in relevance to the NBA, IMO.

 

The foul on Dragic looked worse.

 

Every team needs to have one scrub to play mercenary against Blake griffin

 

I'm seriously smh at all the insane bias on this forum. Fisher is the most hated man for what he did, then the Goran foul was worse than the foul on Blake, and now the guy is celebrated for trying to take out Blake Griffin. WTF? lol

 

Ironic... you're complaining about bias. lol.

 

Remember when Bob Horry did that to Steve Nash and the whole Suns team got suspended?

 

Are you kidding? I won't speak for anyone else, and I'm not "blaming Griffin," but shoulder chucking used to be an every-game play in the 80's. Cracking people in the face (a la D Fish to Scola) was never an every game play. That's just not a good comparison at all.

Now, as for Griffin's reaction to this little bump, give me a break. It's not his fault that the contact happened, but man up. He looked like a damned soccer player writhing around and then limping around (because his shoulder is bruised, what?) If he wants real respect, then he bounces up after that bump and gets in Smith's face immediately.