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James Does Not Have a Turnover Problem

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by glynch, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. basketballholic

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    We are going to lose because we have only one playmaker who is attempting to make all the plays. His turnovers tell us he is handing and passing too much and he's the only player that can handle and pass to create a bucket. The other guys simply pass the ball to get it back to Harden when they aren't open to shoot.

    Our guys can shoot. We've got great three-point shooters. They will shoot bad because they cannot do anything else besides dump the ball back to Harden.

    Hardens turnovers are too high. We will never win a championship with Harden attempting to be a one man offensive band. Until Harden realizes the problem nothing is going to change.

    A championship has to have AT LEAST two efficient playmakers/distributors and has to play with both guys making plays and deferring to the other when they are blanketed and pressured.
     
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    And with another season in the books, no player has ever won a championship while averaging over 4.1 turnovers a game in either the regular season or the playoffs.
     
  3. BigMaloe

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    2years ago LeBron averaged 4.1and they didn't win. That year curry averaged 3.9.

    Last year LeBron averaged 3.6 and won, while curry averaged 4.1

    This year, curry dropped it back to 3.4 and LeBron went up to 4.1 again.

    CLEARLY, this is the riddle.

    If LeBron averages only 4.0 tovs instead of 4.1 while conversely curry upped his tovs to 4.1, WELL; that 0.7 tov/gm would lead to the gsw losing, obviously.
     
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    Methinks you missed the point.
     
  5. BigMaloe

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    Me thinks you don't understand multiple variables influence the outcome.

    Me thinks whether a player averaging 3.9 or 4.1 tovs a game is only a very insignificant measurement to actual championship success.

    Me thinks your throwing shiit out to try and verify your beliefs.

    Me thinks you need to study confirmation bias.
     
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    And you did. You missed the point. Completely. Utterly. Missed it by a mile.
     
  7. BigMaloe

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    Your point is to insinuate we need to cut reliance on a single facilitator. Specifically harden, who you don't think is capable.

    You have floated this theory of a magical tov/pg before and have presented it here again tonight.

    I'm rebutting the nonsense on the concept, if 2 years ago you were to switch LeBron and curry's tov #s that gsw still wins.

    Thus you would have to modify your query to "no championship team has had a player average 4.(2)tov/gm."

    Your as see through as a windshield. Soon you will speak of needing another facilitator and moving harden off ball and possibly rubio talk.
     
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    Nonsense is believing turnovers are meaningless in the context of winning a championship.
     
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    No one believes that.

    Keep beating up that strawman.
     
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    He also does not have a Beard.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    He did not have a bad game 6.
     
  12. BigMaloe

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    Nonsense is thinking I said anything of what you said.

    Nonsense is believing the difference between a championship is 0.2 tov/gm.

    Your moving the goal posts and conversely using the phrase "your missing the point" to support your strawman argument.
     
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    2 time defending turnover champion! ...and set the single playoff game record for turnovers prior to that.... but lets all be grateful... smh...
     
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  14. basketballholic

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    No player has ever won a championship while averaging over 4.1 turnovers a game.

    Deal
    with
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