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Jalen Rose: "the term superstar for Dwight Howard, those days are past"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Commodore, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. dream2franchise

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    S*** on him when he's been playing injured pretty much all season.

    Come back strong, Dwight.
     
  2. RocketsJumer

    RocketsJumer Member

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    When healthy, he is still one of the best big men defenders in NBA. Number prove that. He has never been an offensive superstar, just someone who can out jump everyone else.

    He is still a defensive superstar who can still finish alley-oops and dunk offensive rebounds with an occasional post move. That's all we need from him.
     
  3. val_modus

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    Idk why people have to go all the way back to the Portland series...

    Look at Dwight early on in the season, was playing at all star caliber level. This is a little narrow sighted, even for Jalen.


    -V-
     
  4. thejav

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    Truth hurts...
     
  5. Voice of Aus

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    So much hate for jrose, when he was saying positive things like kD to the rockets you all called him a god
     
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  6. mockster

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    Nba players: Dwight's soft

    Nba players driving on Dwight: jaws music as they run into a brick wall names howard
     
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  7. Aleron

    Aleron Contributing Member

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    it seemed like they had to find something to fill in time, because they spent a lot of time talking about someone injured without mentioning that injuries were his issue.
     
  8. rhino17

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    I think you have to be a top 10 player to legitimately be a superstar, no way Dwight is in that category anymore
     
  9. ThatBoyNick

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    I agree. I just hope the dude can scratch by with all star level of play, but even that might not be the case anymore. He seems like more of a Tyson Chandler then a Cousins or Gasol.
     
  10. Mr. Dominant

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    BUT, that's only because Harden didn't play like himself/how he should have played. You know that, I know that, we all know that.

    Yes Dwight showed up in the Blazers series, but that's only when Dwight showed up (which is good), and honestly that's the only place I want to see him show up, but if Harden has another series like he had with Blazers last year, we aren't going to the promised land in the Finals, nor are we getting out of the first round, regardless of who we play.
     
  11. val_modus

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    Therefore the only superstars in the league are (in no order):
    -LeBron
    -KD
    -Chef Curry
    -B3ARD
    -Westbrook
    -Unibrow
    -Cousins
    -M. Gasol
    -CP3
    -Aldridge

    Sure you could interchange someone who I missed with somebody on the list, but you'd be arguing that someone on my list is not a superstar, which I do not believe is an argument anyone would be making.

    Therefore, the likes of Lilliard, Melo, Love, Irving, John Wall, Lowry, Blake Griffin, DRose, Bosh, etc are not superstars? I'd push it to the top 20 players in the league.
     
  12. rhino17

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    Only guys on your list I would consider are Blake, Wall and Lillard. I'd also take Cousins off, so maybe around a dozen. The rest of those guys are not superstars, just all stars
     
  13. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Or we could just be honest with ourselves and say he's being captain obvious.

    Dwight is injured. I'm sure he of all people isn't happy about his situation. I personally don't see any benefit in piling on.
     
  14. KlutchQT

    KlutchQT Contributing Member

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    Well, he's right.

    x_x @ the whole throat-clearing / water bit
     
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    KlutchQT Contributing Member

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    Uh, they clearly talked about how much mileage he's accrued and flat out said "his body is wearing down."
     
  16. ZNB

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    Dwight was a superstar in the playoffs. If he can replicate that this year who knows.
     
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    Jail-in Rose the drunk driver

    Whatever

    He don't know jack

    [​IMG]
     
  18. SeekingAlpha

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    When I think superstar, I think a franchise player you can build a team from scratch on right now.

    That means LeBron, Durant, Curry, Harden, maybe CP3 and maybe Davis. Even those guys are borderline to me.

    I wouldn't feel comfortable having cousins as the main lead superstar of my team, and guys like Wall, Blake, Bosh just aren't at that level. There's plenty subjectivity to it, but there's a clear line between a superstar you can formulate championship aspirations off of, and just an all-star who will lead you to first round exits even surrounded by decent talent.
     
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    Whether DHoward is a superstar or not is irrelevant, we need a healthy DHoward to have any chance at a championship! All this talk about who he was and how he played for Orlando is crying over spilled milk! He still anchors are interior defense and in certain matchups is able to dominate his opponent! The media's hate for Houston/Howard is and has been in full force for quite some time! Just ignore the haters, and they'll eventually have to eat crow!!!

    Can you imagine if that question was asked to Malarkey!.... Dwight is tuuurrrbl!

    GO ROCKETS!!!
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    No his prime is over and its due to his injuries, just got unlucky. Aside from all the drama he creates, Kobe was almost above Jordan level when he was young and healthy. Now look at him. Look at Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady. Jale Rose is 100% correct
     

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