I'm a big Eagles fan, so ... Gaffney didn't make it because he thought he had the job easy going into training camp. That he was going to be the #2/3 receiver next to Reggie Brown. Well, the other receivers in camp busted their butt and Gaffney simply didn't stand out, so he was eventually cut. The Philly coaching staff liked him but he just kind of took it for granted.
why would they stay?? what in the world, other than money, would possibly keep them here, assuming the organization commits to Carr, again?
The money will help... and AJ still puts up Pro Bowl seasons on a team with no offensive system to speak of. A lot of that is because he's the ultimate featured WR who will get 75% of the throws that actually get made. That sort of commitment will be hard to get if he leaves to go to a team with more options. While he may win more, his numbers could go down... which leads to the reasoning that all big-time WR's are eventually "expendable" (and thus the reason why they all change teams so often).
I saw JG tear it up yesterday...kinda funny...I mean, he wasn't the best, but he wasn't the worst either...Was it Carr that helped ruin his career? I think he's definitely a big part of it...AJ is still a pro bowler so it all can't be that bad...
He couldn't even make the team in Philly. It was probably because of Donavon McNabb. i wonder how many other people's career McNabb has almost ended/ended.
I KNEW we'd see this thread once Gaffney started showing up in the Patriot playoff games. This, to me, is a non-argument. Carr may be responsible for a lot of things but Gaffney's performance (or the lack of) while a Texan is not his fault. Watching the Pats-Chargers game, I was struck at how the Patriot offensive line was able to take control of that game. As the game wore on, they were able to keep the Charger pass rush at bay just long enough for Brady to hit his receivers (and that includes Gaffney) and that, to me, was the deciding factor in the game. It really helps everyone's game when you have a topflight QB and a topflight OL. No matter what anyone thinks of David Carr, you have to admit that the Texans offensive lines have been an absolute joke during his time here and are the prime reason why the Texans have one of the most pitiful offenses in the league. Now, as others have pointed out, getting his butt drop kicked out of the league may have finally lit a fire under Gaffney such that he is now more serious about how he plays but whatever he does or doesn't do for New England is completely irelevant to what's happening here.
No **** man. There are probably about seven people in all of Houston who still support Carr. Yet people still feel the need to beat a dead horse by complaining that he ruined a guy's career who has finally put together two straight good games in only five seasons in the NFL. The rolleyes couldn't be big enough for this crap.
and he's doing it for, let's see, oh yeah, only the NFL's elite team the past 5-6 years... but there's probably no correlation between the two whatsoever. to me, gaffney's success doesn't prove anything, per say, but it certainly does lend some weight to the notion of how bad things were between 2002-2005, and it does provide a terrific example of how several things need to come together for individuals to succeed.
What will be hilarious is if Gaffney's success continues through the playoffs, and he lets it get to his head. Then the very same system that allowed his talents to translate into stats and production would be the one that deemed him dispensable as soon as those contract demands get out of hand.
the argument that gets old is that everyone is a detriment to carr's career. obviously gaffney is the cancer to carr that everyone said he was. that's the point. you'd swear that gaffney didn't belong in the league listening to carr supporters.
It wasn't just Carr supporters. I can't remember anyone arguing that we should've held on to Gaffney before this thread popped up yesterday.
but there have been people arguing from day one that carr has to take more blame for the lack of his success. its not all on the players around him.
I don't see how the two are related. Yes, one can argue that Carr has to take more of the blame, but that has nothing to do with Gaffney sucking his entire career until the last two games and then people all of the sudden blaming Carr for that.
the point is not everyone sucked as much as thought around carr. there is a relation. I'm not blaming carr for gaffney's lack of success here. but here's another thing, considering how bad this offense was gaffney actually had two decent seasons here. you say he sucked, but he was just as about as productive as moulds was. so its not only that everyone blames the players around carr, its that their suckiness is exaggerated sometimes.
The guy's had pretty much two good games since leaving Houston. Is it McNabb's fault that he sucked in Philly?
he was never in philly, thats a dumb example. there are plenty reasons players don't make teams. he's had two good playoff games. and like I said, he wasn't that bad here. and like I said, I'm not blaming his lack so called "lack of success" on carr, so I don't know why you keep trying to make that point with me.
