Mcnair's the one out there publicly "bargaining" though. Remember, Mario was Bob's guy because he accepted a contract as the number 1 overall that VY and Reggie Bush wouldn't; no other reason.
After botching the Foster extension they would be wise to slow play this. Watt can't be a UFA until 2018. This is much ado about nothing.
I'm usually against big long contracts because of the aformentioned screw-ups that we're still paying for today.... But this is different. Certain players you just HAVE to take care of. Guys that will one day have their numbers hanging in the NRG rafters. Namely Andre Johnson and JJ Watt. Those are the pillars of the franchise right now.
This assumes he wants to stay a Texan. If they suffer another losing season then he might rethink signing a long term contract with the team. This is revisionist history. No one thought VY would or should be the top pic except for Horn fans. It was all about Reggie. You don't know the contact was the reason and it turned out to be the right decision.
If J.J. is more valuable than most quarterbacks out there (which many Texans fans believe) _ If the Texans slap him with the franchise tag there is always the possibility of a team swooping in and offering him a contract. And if J.J. keeps doing what he's been doing that's very possible.
I'm sure several teams would love to do it, sure - but they can't. The FT binds the player to the team for another year.
Once you franchise the player, you have them... there is no "swooping in". Also, I've never seen a player desire a franchise tag... like somebody else mentioned previously as something Watt will "probably want" so he can become a free agent and go somewhere else. Usually, they want to stay where they are... and hate getting one year deals that don't provide the same long-term stability.
Yea, what exactly are the rules on the FT, I am pretty sure other teams can offer a tagged player a contract but it means they have to give up picks to the team that tagged; but does the team then have the chance to match the contract? Kind of like RFA in the NBA? Or if someone offers your tagged player a deal and he accepts it are you only then rewarded with the offering teams picks with no chance to match? Google I know.
Quoting myself but this is form wiki.... does the team get to choose which type of 'tag' they use? There are two types of franchise tag designations: the exclusive rights franchise tag, and non-exclusive rights franchise tag: An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams. The player's team has all the negotiating rights to the exclusive player. A "non-exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position for the previous year, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams. So other teams can negotiate long-term contract offers with the player, but if he signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation. Under the Capped years a team can designate one additional player only as a transitional tag. A transition player must be offered a minimum of the average of the top 10 salaries of the prior season at the player's position or 120 percent of the player's prior year's salary, whichever is greater. A transition player designation gives the club a first-refusal right to match within seven days an offer sheet given to the player by another club after his contract expires. If the club matches, it retains the player. If it does not match, it receives no compensation.
There are several different kinds of franchise tags, the full franchise tag makes it to where no one can offer anything and the player is yours, there is a partial tag where other teams can make an offer in exchange for picks.
SSG’s comment is also devoid of any factual context, which he’ll never cop to, ever, because it’ll destroy his narrative. Mario Williams’ contract (6 yrs/$54.5MM/$26.5MM guaranteed) closely followed the year-to-year increases of both the previous three as well as subsequent three first overall picks. Eli Manning received a 10% base increase over Carson Palmer; Alex Smith: 10%; Mario Williams: 10%; JaMarcus Russell: 11%; Jake Long: 12%; and Mathew Stafford: 11%. In terms of guaranteed money, 44% of Manning’s contract was guaranteed; 48% of Smith’s; 51% of Russell’s; 52% of Long’s; 53% of Stafford’s. Williams landed at 48%, which, because it didn’t increase, you could argue was a low ball offer. And, frankly, it was. But, again, context is simportant: Williams wasn’t a QB and that’s not irrelevant. BTW, the rumor was that Bush was looking for 20% increases; Casserly claims with more time, they would have been able to sign him.
So, his deal ends in 2015, right? If the Texans did slap a non-exclusive franchise tag on him and a team *did* offer him a cap-killing contract... do you take the two 1s and let him walk? I would guess the state of the franchise would be the biggest concern - if they're mired in a string of losing seasons... back-to-years with 2 1s would be mighty tempting, right?
Not tempting enough. How often are players of Watt's ability available in a draft? Even Andrew Luck hasn't quite lived up to the hype and he was considered can't miss. I would never be in favor of giving up the best defensive player in the game for the opportunity to draft a couple starters (two 1s).
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>JJ Watt is not the only one who wants an extension. I hear <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> have been very engaged recently, making progress to a new deal.</p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/501839862157172738">August 19, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Perhaps once Patrick Peterson and Tyron Smith got new deals in the group of 2011 first rounders, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> dove in on JJ Watt’s extension</p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/501840754973495298">August 19, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
If they want Watt to be the face of the franchise: 8 years 110 million... APY: 13.75 more guaranteed OR Shorter deal with more financial flexibility and waiting on how Clowney progresses: 5 years 75 million... APY 15.0 less guaranteed Get it done Rick...better not fck this up...
The player has to sign the franchise tag offer 1st... And they can wait practically until the start of the season to do so. While they are waiting it's possible for another team to offer that player a contract and give the Texans two 1st round draft picks in return. That is what I mean by "swooping in."
