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It's Very Simple: Get Romo or Jimmy G

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Fullcourt, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. Ziggy

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    I think NE might be willing to let him go because they want to win sooner than later, feel Brady has a decent window, and Belichick doesn't plan on coaching post-Brady. In other words, I don't think the guys running the show right now necessarily care about the future.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    We're talking about a team with a history of dumping players that are old and you are suggesting that they are going to have a 40 year old QB and a potential franchise QB backup and still dump the backup.....I mean, seriously? It sounds like you just really want to believe, which is okay, but I think you are going to end up regretting it.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I think it's a bit ridiculous for people to believe that Brady is going to be the first QB to remain playing at an elite level till he's 44....or even 42. When old QB's fall off, it usually happens quickly. One day they are awesome slinging the ball around like a champ, seemingly the next day they are garbage with nothing left to offer. I mean, that's the history of every QB that has ever played the game. Holding out hope that Brady will be different is completely irrational.
     
  4. rezdawg

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    No, they have a history of dumping players before they get paid...their strategy has less to do with age, and more to do with what they can do with the extra money. There is no way Belichick keeps Jimmy G, unless he thinks Brady only has 1 year left of playing well.
     
  5. Nick

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    Everything Brady is doing right now defies logic and history.

    Sometimes, there are just once in a lifetime circumstances.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    There have been QB's who stayed playing at a high level at 39.....but that's still REALLY close to the end of the line. What he's doing now isn't really defying anything, he's just one of the few that have made it this far but there's nothing to suggest that he'll become the only QB to keep playing well significantly into their 40's. Everyone thought Peyton Manning was going to be that guy just 2 years ago when he was lighting the world on fire.....and now his career is over.

    I'm just saying that you are betting against history and I'm trying to tell you that father time is undefeated.
     
  7. rezdawg

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    BB has won with Cassel at QB...He has his system in place. They aren't going to pay Brady and Jimmy G high dollar amounts...so either they cut ties with Brady after next season or Jimmy is leaving/getting traded.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    And you just made the case for cutting ties with Brady by mentioning that BB has won with Cassel at QB. If Belichick thinks there is anything at all special about Jimmy G then he would absolutely keep him and push Brady out. Of course I don't think Belichick thinks that there is anything at all special about Jimmy G and he knows that right now he can sucker someone into giving him multiple picks for him, which is why they floated that out there earlier this season.
     
  9. Nick

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    Brady is the last person to keep playing once he knows he's done.

    He's also not just another QB who happens to be playing great at an old age. He's likely he greatest QB of all time whos still likely the best QB in the game.

    Would you bet against him next season? If he says he's playing, it's going to be with the presumption of being at a high enough level. The Pats would have to consider all options, but they're not getting rid of Brady as you suggest if he's healthy and playing well.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    The point is whenever it's over, it usually happens quickly when you are getting that far up there in age. The only thing you know is that he's very unlikely to have 5 years left in him so if you have another QB that you think can be special, you go with them. It's exactly what the Packers did and it proved to be the right decision even though Favre made it a lot longer than most QB's while still playing at a high level.
     
  11. Nick

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    There is a middle ground between "he sucks, we're trading him" and "Brady is a walking corpse, we are keeping him."

    And that certainly includes Jimmy is good, but soon to be a free agent. Brady is still and MVP and wants to keep playing. Belichick isn't staying beyond Brady. What do we do?
     
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    There's plenty of middle room, however there's no scenario where Belichick thinks that Jimmy G could be a potential franchise QB and still wants to trade him. That scenario does not exist. Basically what we're left with is scenarios between him not being good at all and scenarios where Belichick simply doesn't think that he's special given that we know they want to trade him.
     
  13. Nick

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    Certainly. But there is a timing issue at play here.

    They have to decide whether or not to extend Jimmy G before they even know Brady is done.

    I'd still bet that Brady has at least 2 more good years, which forces both parties to make a decision prior to next year (if they care at all about diminishing returns).
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    My point was that it doesn't matter if Brady is done or not. If they thought that Jimmy G was special, like Green Bay thought about Aaron Rodgers, then they'd get rid of Brady early and let him try to get one or two more successful seasons elsewhere while setting up their franchise for the future. Also worth mentioning, that's what the Patriots have done with basically everyone else that has gotten near the end over the last 15 years.
     
  15. Nick

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    And it's worth mentioning that Brady is just a tad bit more meaningful than any of the other guys who they let go. Also, the Packers were no longer contenders once they finally made the switch.

    If the goal is to win the SB, and they feel their chances are better with a belichick/Brady combo than any other iteration over the next 3 years... AND they can get some major value for Jimmy G in the process... it starts to become more and more of a possibility, regardless if they feel Jimmy G is a viable NFL starting QB.

    All dynasties end. Pats fans are universal that they have to maximize Brady's few remaining elite years.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Not if they have something special in Jimmy G.....which of course we both know that they don't.
     
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    NE drafting Jimmy G ahead of us, then trading us Mallett for a draft pick, and then trading us Jimmy G? Could we be the Pats' b**** any worse?
     
  18. Nick

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    Pretty sure that's indeterminate either way. This is like all those brainless Rockers fans pining over DMo.

    They know they still have something special in Brady. They aren't going to bet against him while he's still putting up MVP numbers.
     
  19. PhiSlamma15

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    with the Texans D coming back fully healthy minus Corey Moore and hopefully KJ moves back to safety with Kevin Johnson coming back cuz he sure as heck can't play nothin else but safety possibly or cut him too...Texans would just need a QB to play average making average throws to be dominant in my opinion anyways. Of course if we could get a star QB that's even better but not end of the world if Texans can't make that happen..and whether that QB (if they can make corrections before the next season starts), is on the roster NOW or not that's really all they would need. Hopefully we'll see big improvements from the rookies having a year under their belt playing on offense this year. Brock, offensive line injuries and rookies at key positions on offense was way too much to overcome obviously and it showed all year long...quite the antithesis compared against the Texans D which have played together as a unit for years all on the same page. Hopefully they'll get a safety and make decision on KJ and Moore the only two true liabilities I see on D. Kevin Johnson should remedy one of the two liabilities by default. Texans EXPOSED the Patriots..they just couldn't finish them off offensively. All Brady could so is chuck 20-40 yard HAIL MARY's outta desperation being mauled by the Texans Defensive rush and Moore/KJ couldn't make a feakin play on the ball ONE TIME! JEEZ! However, I will not be shocked if they loose this weekend or in the Superbowl because now the remaining teams have the talent on both sides of the ball to finish them off
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, nice little dig there in lieu of a valid argument.
     

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