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It's tough to be LeBron's teammates

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by goodbug, May 14, 2010.

  1. goodbug

    goodbug Contributing Member

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    Wonder how LeBron makes teammates better? Check no further than this.

    Hughes
    04-05 Wizards 6.3rb 4.7as 2.9steal most steals in the league 22points
    05-06 Cavaliers 4.5rb 3.6as 1.5steal 15.5points
    06-07 Cavaliers 3.8rb 3.7as 1.3steal 14.9points
    07-08 Cavaliers 3.6rb 2.4as 1.5steal 12.3points
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    Ben. Wallace
    07-08 bulls 8.8rb 1.8as 1.4steal 1.6block 5.1points
    Cavaliers 7.4rb 0.6as 0.9steal 1.7block 4.2points
    08-09 Cavaliers 6.5rb 0.8as 0.9steal 1.3block 2.9points
    09-10 Pistons 9.2rb 1.7as 1.3steal 1.1block 5.5points
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    Jamison
    09-10 Wizards 8.8rb 1.3as 1steal 0.2block 20.5points
    Cavaliers 7.7rb 1.3as 1.1steal 0.5block 15.8points
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    Mo.Williams
    07-08 Bucks 3.5rb 6.3as 1.2steal 0.2block 17.2points
    08-09 Cavaliers 3.4rb 4.1as 0.9steal 0.1block 17.8points
    09-10 Cavaliers 3rb 5.3as 1steal 0.3block 15.8points
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    Shaq
    08-09 Suns 8.4rb 1.7as 0.7steal 1.4block 17.8points
    09-10 Cavaliers 6.7rb 1.5as 0.3steal 1.2block 12points
     
  2. RudyTBag

    RudyTBag Contributing Member
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    You are one sad little man...
     
  3. ClutchCity3

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    What a pointless thread...try take LeBron away from that Cavs team, they can hardly make the playoff
     
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  4. RedRedemption

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    If you land on a good team with a superstar already on board, you will lose stats. No **** sherlock.

    It's not about stats you moron.
     
  5. bewy

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    fg and 3p percentages apply better here. Of coruse ur ppg rpg and apg are to drop in a stacked team
     
  6. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    The LeBron Effect ... clearly sucking the life out of his team for the last several years.

    Code:
    [U][B]         Lebron On     Lebron Off     Net [/B][/U]
    09/10      +11.1          -4.6       +15.8
    08/09      +15.1          -5.9       +21.0
    07/08       +2.3          -8.9       +11.3
    06/07       +5.7          -2.9        +8.6
    05/06       +3.8          -6.3       +10.1
    04/05       +2.1          -7.5        +9.7
    
     
  7. goodbug

    goodbug Contributing Member

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    Other than Mo's 3p % increases, all other players and % drop across the board.

    And can someone sort out this stacked team but crap teammates after loss myth?

     
  8. goodbug

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    You moron better check Gasol's stats before and after the trade.

     
  9. ryano2009

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    Wait..!! so you saying the Cavs would be better if they didn't have Lebron James..WTF!!
     
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  10. BrooksBall

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    Off the top, Mo Williams had his 2 most efficient shooting seasons playing with LeBron. Last season, he posted the highest PER of his career and made the All-Star team.

    Ben Wallace was struggling in Chicago in his partial season with them in 07-08 and actually improved playing with Cleveland down the stretch. He also played several fewer minutes per game with them than he did in the last 10 years so looking at raw numbers doesn't make sense. He went to a bad Detroit team this season and got more minutes and touches.

    Larry Hughes is a head case and has had issues on and off the court. He's struggled with every team he's played for since his breakout season. Other than for 1 season (not even his breakout season), he's always been an inefficient scorer throughout his career.

    I'm sure you could find a similar set of players for Jordan and Kobe if you wanted to make this kind of argument against them. When you play with elite perimeter players, your touches and numbers are almost always going to take a hit.
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    LeBron has never had a teammate as good as Gasol.

    And without looking it up, I'm sure that you can find examples of players who have improved while playing with LeBron. Mo Williams is already one example.

    You are picking and choosing players to make your argument and there were all kinds of holes in your OP.
     
  12. Shaud

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    Yeah LeBron has been the one keeping these juggernaut Cavs teams from the playoffs.

    Question

    Where did Mo Williams lead Milwaukee?
    Where did Antwan Jamison lead Washington?
    Where did Larry Hughes lead any of his teams?
    Shaq not the same Shaq and he was hurt some this year.
     
  13. durvasa

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    goodbug: "Shaq was 18/8 last year. He was as good as Gasol."
     
  14. ItsMyFault

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    Is this man really trying to imply that LeBron doesn't make his teammates better?
     
  15. goodbug

    goodbug Contributing Member

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    The last and only player who would get a better contract after staying in Cavs was Boozer.

    Numbers don't lie.

     
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  16. Mr. Space City

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    i wish i could neg rep.
     
  17. professorjay

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    Why do you keep reading my posts, ignore them, and then make **** up time and time again?

    I already told this troll 3 separate times about this.

    BTW, Big Ben averaged lower minutes too. Mo maintained his average in minutes and stats his first season. In his second season (this season) if you actually watch Cavs games, you'll know he was injured and came back still nursing it.

    You got me on Larry Hughes though. That guy was so awesome someone dedicated this site to him:

    http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/2007/11/

    I'm sure he's done much better after leaving the Cavs. Ohwaitaminute.
     
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  18. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    LeBron broke his will to play basketball. Its all LeBron's fault. He's like a psychological terrorist.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Kojirou

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    You've now reached JCDenton level. On the ignore list you go!
     
  20. goodbug

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    Both Shaq and Gasol were in 2009 All NBA Third Team last year.

     

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