It's Time! Consolidation of Assets: Roster Spots Needed!

Players we can/should move, in order:
Wood,
Gordon,
Wood,
Gordon,
Wood,
Gordon,
Wood,
Gordon,
Wall (good luck),
Schroder, Schroder, Schroder, Schroder,
[Everyone else not named Sengun and Green]
Josh Christopher only if we get another top 8-ish

 

I think this gets a lot easier to wrap my mind around after we know which positions we are drafting.

Getting #1 overall is very different than drafting #5 for these kinds of discussions.

Plus, to move up in a trade you have to know where other teams are to make up trade scenarios.

 

Ehhh I don’t think they need to yet.

Same as it’s ever been, if they can move Gordon & Wood, go for it. But I don’t feel the need to move anyone else.

*(JI) — Kevin Porter Jr. — Daishen Nix — John Wall
Jalen Green — Josh Christopher
Eric Gordon — *(AG) — Garrison Mathews — David Nwaba
*(JS/CH/PB/KM) — Jae’Sean Tate — K.J. Martin
Christian Wood — Alperen Şengün — Usman Garuba

*Top 7 draft pick
15th-20th draft pick

 

Tate
For
DayRon Sharpe
Let’s get something for Tate before his mini contract expires. He will be used as filler in trade at the trade deadline otherwise. Let’s get some size that has found some success already. Sharpe’s contract is rookie scale with years left. No need to draft this year when last year’s was so good that talent got pushed down & win now teams have better than average rookies.

 

Trade Wood+Tate+#16 as discussed. I believe this will get you to Portland or Memphis.

Trade KPJ for whatever. OK player but he is hurting the development of the other players.

Keep Schroeder as a pg that helps the growth of the youth.

 

Players I don't want to see next year: Wood, Gordon, Schroeder

Players I like but would trade for a good return: Tate, Porter, Christopher, KJ, Nix

Players I have a neutral connection with: Mathews, Garuba, Nwaba

Players that have no chance in hell of being traded (unfortunately): John Wall

Players we must keep: Green & Sengun

 

I am not exactly a prospect expert, but if a guy falls to 7-10 that you really like...maybe a Sharpe, Griffin, Duren, Murray....

I am all about packaging some combo of Wood / Gordon / 2022 Nets pick / Tate / 2023 Bucks pick to move up and nab them.

I feel like there are always teams in that range that don't want prospects, they want to get better immediately.

 

I think you start with moves involving Wood and Gordon, then you move on to tradeable assets like Tate and KJ. Obviously you will ultimately have to end up with a roster centered around Green, Sengun, and whoever our top prospect in this draft ends up being, but you can't get there overnight. The younger guys on this roster can still raise their value to the team, and either become great trade chips, or guys that are too good to move. It's honestly a pretty good spot to be in as a rebuilding team. We have lots of potential ammunition if/when we're ready to pull the trigger on something bigger.

 

As long as we keep gordon, garrison, green and garuba, I am good. Draft Griffin.

The G team.

 

You have to try to move Wood - he's not going to be here long-term anyway so definitely have to move him this summer or his value will decline to an expiring contract pretty quickly. Gordon you want to move but if you can't it's not the end of the world if he finishes his contract out and them signs elsewhere.

Schroeder will be gone especially if you don't move Gordon. Hopefully someone wants Nwaba and takes his $5 million a year - there was some interest last trade deadline. Prayer that the Lakers take Wall off our hands, can't seem them giving up a future 1st vs just buying westbrook out and shipping James and going into rebuild themselves. So let's stay we are stuck with him for the summer.

So depending on what happens with other those 4 guys, will decide a lot. You can move the Nets pick for a future pick to create a roster spot - that's not a bad scenario as it gives you a year to see what your areas of needs are.

But I'd be hesitant to move KP3, KJM, GM, Nix, and any of this years rookies. They are all developing and it seems premature to move them while their value is increasing - they certainly should be more valuable with another year and thus a better trade asset depending on where they are on their contract.

 

The Cuban once said Morey and The Rockets treat all players as assets

True, but all teams do....including the mavs
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Against my wishes Im hearing mostly BPA (best player available)
regardless of position. So yeah, we may have 10 guards on a 15 man
roster and spend time and money invested in training these newbies
3 to 4 years and then try to flip them for a vet of a position of need.

What are they saying? "We in the Talent Acquisition Business" right now!!
Just one step up from the G-league.....and three steps behind the rest of
the NBA.

So yes, don't get too attached to anyone but Green for right now....
If Green fails to progress in 3 to 4 years; then him too.

Example: Patrick Fertitta loves a team full of guards who can dribble,
attack the rim, and get layups (but unfortunately get blocked more often than not).
This sets up Jaden Ivey being drafted and competing with: Green, EGo, Porter jr,
Mathews, Nix, and Josh Christopher for minutes.

But hey, it's position-less basketball and nowadays you can play
6'3" guards as PF's and Centers right? Nevermind rebounds, or
altered shots, blocks or deflections.....we've got 5 more years
to catch up to "The Process" done by Philly. Heck we got decades
to get to where the Kings are now.

 

Please move on from tate.

Tate and Wood are black holes

 

It really sucks that when you look at this roster's individual talent , we should be a 35- 40 win team easy... Then when you factor in the upcoming high pick , that should put us as a lock for playoffs for years to come... BUT the damn talent is so redundant, that even if they all " buy in " , it's never going to naturally work... Good teams, that we're gonna be competing for a playoff spot with, are gonna poach this roster and send flowers and candy thanking us...

 

I'm not sure we NEED to move anyone.

Young teams with inexperienced players tend to lose games. We need to wait and see how the ping pong balls bounce before we go blowing everything up, but even if we get pick #1 or #2 there is still the need to have veterans and role players to work alongside the younger players.

The only move I might make early on is to see if we can get a return on Gordon by packaging him and the BKN pick to trade up. Perhaps Portland sees an opportunity and sends back Bledsoe and one of their picks?

Apart from that, we need veterans and workers to play alongside Green and our latest (top 2?) pick. For that reason (as much as I hate watching him out there) I don't think moving Wood is the right answer to start the season. Sengun isn't ready to start yet, and another half season off the bench might be really good for him. Wood can be potentially be traded later in the year. But if we were to move him, we'd need to find another starting big to partner with whomever we draft - Holmgren would need a bruiser type face up 4 who can hit the 3 consistently; Smith and Wood could actually be a decent tandem, opening up driving lanes for Green with their shooting ability.


TL;DR - don't go downsizing just yet - it's all about the summer of 2023. Wall off the books and the chance to chase a max free agent. Next season should be about cobbling together as many wins as possible, seeing what we actually have, and then convincing someone to come here via cap space, or a trade. If a trade, THAT is the time that we cash in some assets (players and picks).

 

Sengun and Green are the only two I'd consider off-limits at the moment. I like Martin, too, but he can be had for the right price. Everyone else I'm either indifferent about or dislike.