Someone served n the kitchen of US army flipping burgers or drove a truck can calim he is military expert.. 13 year after UNsancation & collation of some 22 countries and nearly 90% of the population decided not to fight for Sadam with little or no resistance is't a real war experiance.. But Treeman still managed somehow to suffer from all psychological &mental side-effects And yes on the day you left, Ahmadi Najad said to you thanks for your service.. In your own great opinion what if Hamas decided to target Dimona Nuclear center? Israel's people already suffer a high rate of cancer related illness... And no ...Patriot battries was't perfect.. What if other country decided to join the party? Would you call it "khai?" If you think Israel has any Moral consideration you are wrong.. There is a reason why Israel is ranked 5th most hated nation if u follow the news
What would America do if Mexico decided to occupy part of Texas and build settlements on it and controlled how much water, electricity, supplies, and calories the occupied people received?
Every war is different and the action you saw didn't have the combatants lobbing missiles at US citizens on CNN. ROE would be way different. IDF are bastards and probably only value a Moslem's life slightly more than a Moslem does a jew, but air strikes would not have near as much scrutiny in a homeland fight.
There's a pretty big difference between America and the Palestinians though. America would be capable of doing something effective about their situation, the Palestinians are only capable of making things worse for their people if they resort to violence. What would America do if Mexico decided that they wanted Texas back so they started bombarding El Paso with Rockets from Ciudad Juarez? How many rockets would it take for the US to go in and eliminate the threat? 5? 10 maybe?
I just don't see the U.S. military letting it rain on a compound that they have been warned by the UN 17 times not to target because it was being used as a bomb shelter no matter what the circumstances are. I'm glad you are willing to admit that the IDF does not value much the lives of Palestinians. They should. And don't tell me that I should say the same for Hamas. I have been more critical of Hamas in the past week than the IDF. Im just tired of people like treeman who believe that the IDF is infallible.
The same US that nuked 2 Japanese cities full of civilians.... I mean, would we do so in Iraq or Afghanistan? No, but have the fighting take place 50 or so miles from the capital and have those targets house medium range rockets and mortars that kill on average a couple of Americans every year for the past 12 or 13 years and I'd bet things would be a whole lot different. By no means is the IDF "infallible", both sides have a ridiculous amount of blood on their hands and plenty of blame to go around, but there's some pretty important context to take into consideration IMO.
IDF/Israel is definitely not infallible. Biggest tragedy is all the innocent civilians that are caught in the middle losing family members and love ones.
Well if you believe they are not above criticism then my rant isn't directed towards you. It's directed towards individual posters like treeman who do believe that what is going on in Gaza is black and white.
You are right. Once we have a strong leader in the United States, who can resist the Israel Lobby and who says enough is enough Israel will have to settle down and give the Palestinians their rights both in and outside the 1967 borders. Without our massive subsidies and supplying of weapons the Israeli economy will not be able to support what is said to be overall the most militarized country on earth. Overall it is hard to think of any net positive Israel does for the United States.
O please. Smileys aren't the only way of "rejoicing" or its equivalent showing an appalling lack of basic morality or empathy. Rooting for the killing of Hamas members who are simple turned into less than human stereotypes, frankly Nazi style, and the unbridled support for the invasion as well as the willing acceptances of the most obvious lies and rationales for the killing of a thousand civilians needlessly including refuges hiding out in UN shelters is, gotcha tactics aside , morally the equivalent of rejoicing.
Finnish reporter in Gaza reports rocket fire from al-Shifa hospital in Gaza. Hospital is widely thought to house the Hamas headquarters. Basically confirms everything IDF has been saying, Hamas out their own women, children and sick within harms way. http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/08/0...d-here-from-the-gazan-side-into-israel-video/
Many many international healthcare professionals and journalists say this has not been happening. I'm sure if a rocket was fired then more people would report it... More lies just so they can murder more kids.
I think the best analogy for the present "war" is the resistance of the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto. When the Jews there decided to fight back rather than slowly starve or die of disease or wait for the trains to the death camps they were viewed as heroes and freedom fighters. When you are fenced in and are being slowly exterminated by being deprived of sanitation and health care and economic development and even calorically rationed (I know after being called on it Israel has relented a bit in last couple of years) you have the right to fight back. One can argue for being a complete pacifist, but when both sides commit violence it is those who have been surrounded and subjected to a slow grinding death who have more the moral high ground. In a weird way with only their pathetic little rockets and small arms, confined to a 25 mile by 5 mile strip of essentially only a city, Gazan resistance against every modern weapon known except nukes is sort of like passive non-violent resistance. The mounting numbers of the slaughtered innocents or even those who are attempting to resist violently is increasingly sickening the whole world and this may even eventually affect the Holocaust scarred oppressors whose leaders try to fan their understandable historical fears 24/7. Even if their resistance and mounting deaths don't reach the hearts of their oppressors, world opinion will eventually force the oppressors to relent and this could happen suddenly if the United States stops all out support for the oppression. I think the resistance of the Gazans, (though what choice do they really have ?) will go down in history as one of the great examples of human resistance to oppression in recent history.
Yeah because Hamas will murder them if they go against their propaganda agenda, doesn't take much intelligence to figure that one out.
If Israel truly is as bad as you wish them to be, then the only smart thing to do would be to put your weapons down and show the world how awful they are. Either the world heavily condemns Israel for murdering non-violent resistance or Israel finally lifts the blockade and their lives improve tremendously. Why not try non-violence for a change? Why?
Look how stupid this guy is: * Data for these health rankings refer to the latest year available, 1999-2003 During that time period Israeli settlers were still in Gaza and there was no blockade in place. Just stick to making conspiracy theory videos on YouTube about the Freemasons.
