All the Israel/Palestine threads are a one man Deji show. Thanks for providing interesting information in the midst of a lot of noise. If I could rep, I would.
Edit: Not to imply that you were wrong, just that Hamas actually acted with even more restraint than anyone wants to give them credit for. And there's still zero proof of their involvement in the kidnappings. If Bibi really has proof he needs to share it as well as explain why he issued the gag order. That's not entirely accurate, but it's a much better topic of conversation than the Balfour Agreement or Islam. The time line is full of details and is pretty clear: Jun 12th: 3 Israeli kids are kidnapped. One managed to make an emergency call and the sounds of automatic gunfire and screaming, followed by silence are allegedly in the recording. June 13th: Palestinian security find the burnt out wreck of the car, full of blood stains and bullet holes they believe was involved in the kidnapping, and the Israeli government enforces a gag order on this and the phone call. June 14th: More than 2500 soldiers raid the West Bank to "find" the boys and never let the public know that they are about 99.9% certain they were dead already. Bibi announces he "knew for a fact""Hamas did it (despite the Army and Shin Bet saying in press conferences that they don't know). PA officials demand proof -- none was or has yet to be provided. It's still not clear to me who leaked the story about the 911 call or when, but it was long, long after the damage that followed by frantic soldiers intent on a rescue played to manipulate Israeli anxiety... What happened next was political theater: homes, universities, mosques, charities, businesses and refugee camps raided, sometimes with missiles used to open doors, computers confiscated, over 500 suspects arrested and put into indefinite detention, hundred of injuries, and 10 deaths. And exaggerated or not, millions of dollars of damages and reported confiscation (and some allege theft) of personal property by security forces including the destruction of a dairy. All of this, of course, besides creating a **** storm of violent riots, is a violation of Israel's existing treaty with the PA, that it has to cooperate on things like this in areas that are under PA control with PA security. Which, up until this point, they had been doing. When the bodies of the boys were finally found, they destroyed all the homes on the property, and the ambulance hauling the bodies away was attacked, though it's not clear if it was in retaliation for the demolition, or because the bodies were found. It's not until the evening of July 2nd that 9 rockets are fired from Gaza...and not from Hamas. These are homemade jobs that go over the fence in Sderot and while they don't kill anyone, heavily damage three homes. July 3rd, the Israeli airforce responds, hitting 15 targets in Gaza, flattening two building and injuring 15 Gazans. THEN, Hamas began firing rockets, and by July 7th, Operation Protective Edge (which is actually more like Operation Cliff's Edge in Hebrew) kicks into full gear and the air force goes full on into bombing mode...all while the board is on it's fifth thread debating more about who deserves it more than the facts that led up to this.
Deji, what do you think of NBC News' decision to remove Ayman Mohyeldin from Gaza despite Mohyeldin filing the best reports on events there this past week? I just became aware of their follow up decision to redeploy him after public protest via social media. Sounds like a big mistake.
Just go home. You need me to source that Arab Christian citizens of Israel are being discriminated against. Now you need a source for this... You're lost champ, leme help: Gewgol?
discriminated? they are equall civilians and probably one of the most educated minority in the world. they work and mingle in society, universities and hi teck companies, and a well respected citizens.
Christians in Israel: Strong in education Data published by Central Bureau of Statistics reveals 158,000 Christians live in Israel, make up 2% of population; 80.6% are Arabs Yaron Druckman Published:* 12.23.12, 18:11 / Israel News On Christmas Eve of 2012 the Christian population in Israel numbers 158,000 and comprises 2% of the Israeli population, according to data published by the Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) on Sunday. * A whopping 80.6% of Christians are of Arab ethnicity while the rest are originally from the former Soviet Union*having made aliyah together with their Jewish family members under the Law of Return * The CBS data revealed that 71% of Arab Christians reside in the northern district of the country, 13% in the Haifa district and only 9.5% in the Jerusalem area. * Most Christian Arabs reside in the north (Photo: Ziv Reinstein) * Non-Arab Christians on the other hand were more evenly distributed, with 38.6% residing in Tel Aviv and the central districts, 34.7% in the north and Haifa, 14% in the south and 11.6% in the Jerusalem area. * The communities with the largest number of Arab Christian residents were Nazareth with 22,400, Haifa with 14,400, Jerusalem with 11,700 and Shfaram with 9,400. * In contrast, non-Arab Christians were concentrated in three major cities: Haifa, with a population of 3,400, Jerusalem with 3,000 and Tel Aviv with 2,900. * In terms of child-birth, in 2011 the average number of children born to a Christian mother stood at 2.2, and was the lowest birth rate among all religious groups in Israel. In comparison, a Muslim woman will bear an average of 3.5 children during her lifetime, a Jewish woman 3.0 and a Druze 2.3. * The vanguard in education The CBS noted that when taking into account the data recorded over the years, Christian Arabs fared the best in terms of education in comparison to any other group receiving an education in Israel. * For example, in 2011 the number of Arab Christian students eligible for a high-school diploma stood at 64% in comparison to only 48% among Muslim children, 55% among Druze and 59% in the Jewish education system in general. * They were also the vanguard in terms of eligibility for higher education. Some 56% of Arab Christians, compared with 50% of Jewish students; 36% of Druze students and 34% of Muslims received a high school diploma that met the basic demands of Israeli universities. * In the 2011/2012 school year, some 5,700 students affiliated with Christianity studied in one of Israel's higher education institutes and comprised 1.8% of Israel's student population.
http://www.opendemocracy.net/arab-awakening/quinn-coffey/israel-passes-legislation-to-reclassify-its-christian-citizens-as-%E2%80%98non-a Israel passes legislation to reclassify its Christian citizens as ‘non-Arab’
Ok I see one of three possibilities: You kingdrago are a 10 year old child. You kingdrago are a Casspi only fan to put it kindly. You kingdrago are loaded right now.
wow, so now were getting personal? to your questions. no! no I'm not casspi only fan! if I am, why am I still here while casspi is not on the team? thought about that maybe? I'm a rockets fan! not gonna respond the third one. It's just shows you are the 10 years old. you are something
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http://www.jewishpress.com/special-features/israel-at-war-operation-protective-edge/feiglin-re-conquer-gaza-now/2014/07/15/ Deputy Speaker of the Knesset, Moshe Feiglin, reveals how far right the Israeli political system has drifted, which is a reflection of the Zionist state's growing settler population. What a loon.
First off, wrong reporter. Ayman Mohyeldin does not equal Diana Magnay. Secondly, here is the context of that tweet--- but of course in the distorted media cycle, somehow getting threatened by people cheering death and insulting that group becomes this greatly clipped quote of calling Isrealis scum. With this degree of misinformation, one really wonders about the information bring conveyed about this issue, and whether people are properly equipped to have a balanced view of it all.
They should also give their audience a handle of the situation---clearly that has not happened in this case. I would suggest you dig deeper before you make general assertions---and consider the fact that you yourself do not have an objective view of the situation.
