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Islamic woman executed for killing her rapist

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by downbytheriver, Oct 26, 2014.

  1. Northside Storm

    Northside Storm Contributing Member

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    also, slavery, genocide, colonialism. don't forget.
     
  2. downbytheriver

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    You're ignorant and arguing for the sake of arguing. the state of rape in islam is a REAL issue that ignorant people are trying to sweep under the rug for the sake of formalities. that's despicable.
     
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    Haven't seen any of that from non-muslims and a few radicalists in northern ireland in the past 3 decades. PROGRESS.

    P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S. It means something.
     
  4. Northside Storm

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    Iran's despotic regime is an affront to human rights. Their utter inane drive to suppress free expression, and the open web is disgusting.

    That said, when it's "holier-than-thou" revisionists who dismiss rape culture that are making this charge, it's not as potent.

    Fruits of a flawed Abrahamic tree, in my book.
     
  5. CometsWin

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    Every diplomat has immunity in foreign service in... every country in the world.

    Killing someone a few days after someone allegedly rapes you isn't defending your boundaries. It's called murder in every country in the world.


    Did someone really go with the "Why do you hate America?" card? Bahahahah....
     
  6. fallenphoenix

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    females protecting our country getting sexually assaulted by their superiors and having it swept under the rug isn't a real issue.

    gotcha!
     
  7. Northside Storm

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    Rwanda, and Serbia say otherwise. Also Thai slave labour probably powers your shrimps.

    My original point though was that your "holier-than-thou" attitude is pretty hilarious if you're going to extend it centuries back.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Then allow others the same freedom, without labeling them.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    "It's ok because other people did it centuries ago."
     
  10. KingCheetah

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    Did the rapist have an awesome beard?
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Rumor has it that he looked like one of the people in this picture.

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    You do realize that a lot of rape statistics out there, particularly those from countries with questionable criminal justice systems, are based on independent studies done by NGOs or supranational organizations that do not rely on police reports and the like, right?

    And if middle eastern rape stats are pointless, why are the rest of the worlds' not? Under-reporting of rape happens nearly everywhere on a massive scale; when you're talking about a difference between say 40% and 50%, I'm not sure why under-reporting makes one stat invalid and the others not.

    I'm not sure how I feel about this case one way or the other, but I do know that I put a lot more faith in data than in your personal opinions and perceptions of the middle east.
     
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    Because in countries that are not governed by sharia law, you do not need 4 male witnesses to prove rape.
     
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    Im not sure if some posters here actually understand how reletvily easy it is to report sexual assault charges in the US. At the school I attend a male can be expelled just by allegations and hersay from a disgruntled female. I doubt this is possible in countries that attempt to impose Sharia Law.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    So what else do they rely their data on besides police reports?
     
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    The most absurd thing is that the burden of proof for adultery or for sex outside of marriage (yes, that is sanctioned under sharia law in several countries) is much lower than the one for rape. So, not only is it almost impossible for a woman to prove that she was raped, but in addition, by accusing someone of rape, she admits she had sex and she might be punished for that (e.g. by stoning or caning) while the rapist goes free.

    No wonder that a ton of it goes unreported - because by reporting it, not only are the chances of criminal sanctions against the rapist close to zero, but the woman also puts herself in great danger (and that doesn't even count the danger from her own family through so-called "honor killings" because she "brought shame to the family" and crap like that).

    Let's not forget the mentality in these places as displayed by some of Mathloom's posts...when there was discussion of a rape case, he was extremely quick to blame the woman immediately. And he is not an outlier there.

    And "itstheyear3030" really asks why their data would be any worse than the stats of the rest of the world... :rolleyes:
     
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    Why are you like this? What made you... the way you are? Trying to justify a rape culture with skepticism about rape statistics? There is a sex culture at American colleges... one I do not agree with. Young girls and young boys get inebriated, have relations, and think that's just what being young is about. Sometimes rape is involved. But by no means is there a culture of rape where it isn't taken seriously. It is taken very, very seriously in this country. Moreso by adults out of college than kids running around getting their rocks off.

    In the M.East? It's a laughable offense. I've seen rape stories from India, rape stories about frats etc. in the national media. Well, that's because those countries are doing something about it. In the Indian streets they cut off the penis of a guy forcing himself on a girl. They're beating up guys who think it's acceptable to grope. In the US guys are serving hard time, getting fired and blacklisted from jobs. It is not acceptable.

    In the M.East? Diplomats are high fiving each other. Girls don't know any better and keep their mouths shut/think it's a way of life. It's not even close to a similar situation as secular nations-- to compare it shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

    If you've got no experience or knowledge of the issue, that's fine. but throwing out arguments about data or stats because you don't know better in an attempt to muddle up the issue is a sign of POOR CHARACTER.
     
  18. Nook

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    Yup.

    This is essentially the argument that 90% of the posters fall back on when it comes to debating this topic.
     
  19. Mathloom

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    Her final letter (to her mother):

     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    That is messed up
     

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