Islamic USF player: Dispute over uniform led to dismissal

Eight pages ago it was, who the hell knows what y'all are arguing about now. Poo- flingers

 

I think that you should learn more about history. Broken record, people.

Also, where in the NT does Jesus say the earth is round?

 

This was not as entertaining as I had hoped. Revelations was more amusing.

Really?

That's a whole lot of implying and seeming to indicate, if you ask me. It's like reading Nostradamus.

 

I'm no biblical scholar, by any means, but I do know that the ancient Greeks knew the world was round...

From Space Today Online:

-Ptolemy. Ptolemy described Earth as a huge ball at the center of the Universe with objects circling around it. Each planet moved in a separate circle. In his view, the Moon was lowest. Then came Mercury, Venus, the Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. The stars were farthest out. To explain why planets seemed to change direction, Ptolemy used old calculations by Hipparchus to understand planetary motion. Hipparchus worked about 130 B.C. and Ptolemy about A.D. 150, which suggestes it took 280 years to come up with the complicated scheme used to predict future positions of planets.

-Pythagoras. The idea of Earth as a sphere was abroad as early as the 6th century B.C. with Pythagoras of Samos.

-Aristotle. In the 4th century B.C., Aristotle of Stagira knew the Earth was round because of eclipses observed when Earth passed between the Moon and the Sun.

-Eratosthenes. In the 3rd century B.C., Eratosthenes was a Greek astronomer working in Egypt when he noticed the Sun directly over one city cast a shadow in another city 500 miles north. Eratosthenes understood correctly that meant Earth's surface is curved. He calculated correctly that Earth is a ball about 25,000 miles around.

http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Earth/AncientAstronomy.html

edit: Keep D&D Civil!!

 

Well, if you're writing a harmless sociology term paper, perhaps, but if you're trying to justify evidence that a document came from the mouth of God, I think you have to be held to a slightly higher standard than that.

Sorry, but "this might mean" doesn't do it for me.

 

Then how do you know you're following God's wishes and not someone's misinterpretation of them?

 

But how do you know they interpreted it correctly? You just said, "you arent 100% sure ever what something means. " How do you know the scholars are "interpreting" things correctly?

 

dude let it go!!!

this comes down to faith. if you don't have it...great! move on.

the crap that you guys have slammed down the Islamic guys here is just ridiculous. from da da's inflammatory crap to second-guessing these people's core beliefs in a disrespectful, sarcastic manner. leave them the frick alone, already.

 

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. I'll make an unbeliever out of you yet.

1) I can prove that two plus two is four. It can be factually established.

Can you prove that the Qura'an is what it claims to be? I will answer that for you: no. You stated earlier that you have "faith" that it is the holy word of God, but you cannot prove it:

Therefore, if you want to hold your faith to the same level of "proof" as that of mathematics, it follows that your religious faith should be abandoned, since it can't be proven.

2)

Well, I am more educated than you are. Why are you arguing with me?

3)

And again, I ask, how do you know it is being interpreted correctly? You said, 'you arent 100% sure ever what something means. '

I mean, earlier, you said:

That doesn't sound like God wants you to get the gist of it-- he doesn't want it modified, meaning you better get the whole damned thing right.

But you yourself admit that translations and interpretations aren't "100% sure".

It sounds like you've put yourself in quite a bind.

No.

 

very respectful. admirable quality for an administrator of a website that bans people based on how they treat others here. do as i say...not as i do.

 

Awwww. You poor thing.

 

it's not me. i'm not defending Islam. i don't know enough about it to defend.

it's just about treating people with some modicum of respect...particularly about their core beliefs...when you call for the same from others here, and ban them if they don't. consistency is a good thing.

 

It's nothing new.

It's never going to change.

I'm not about to pretend I'm someone I'm not. It's a waste of effort. It might work for other people; me, I can't be bothered.

Seriously, I suggest you get over it and stop derailing what's been a pretty entertaining discussion with adeel.

 

Quit preaching please.

Let the combatants get it on!

 

i get it now. you and kagy are the same guy. that's why you never get banned while others do!! it's all so clear now!!