Thank you!!!! I can't believe people are seriously putting Rose over Lawson. This is not 2011. Rose has not shown anything in the last 4 years to even consider him near the top 10 or even the top 20.
Also, I think I would add Jrue Holiday to this list. He has only played in 74 games the last 2 years, and hasn't been great when he has played. 15 ppg on 44% shooting last season, and averaged 6.9 asts to 2.3 turnovers. He is a decent defender, but nothing special. He has never had an effective fg% over 50%, whereas Ty has had 5 seasons. I don't know, seems like a stretch to put Jrue above Ty especially considering the durability issues.
How is better Charles Barkley or Horace Grant / Dennis Rodman ? It is about fit. Lawson defense will be better, too --> he will not be expected to carry the team on offence. Much like Howard played better in the play offs --> played TEAM ball --> less isolation, more pick & roll, beast on defence, etc... I hope Lawson finds his niche accepts it and excels.
Wow 70%? I think Lawson is top 15, barely (which is still a great considering how crazy deep the PG position is in the nba). Curry Westbrook Paul Wall Irving Lillard Conley Lowry Bledsoe Dragic Are 10 players I would rather have then Lawson, on top of that Teague, Parker, Knight Rose are arguably better. Now every year is different and I could easily see Lawson jumping to top 7 if he plays really well this next season, but we will see.
What this team needed was a 2nd ball-handler and creator, Lawson might be a top 5 ball-handler and creator in this league among PGs. Where Lawson loses ground against the other PGs on his tier is his mediocre efficiency as a scorer and his mediocre defensive ability. But we can make up for his D because we have Dwight in the paint and Bev on the bench to replace him, and his efficiency should rise playing next to James.
IMO, a lot of those point guards on that list are so similar in value and effectiveness for one skill or another its really hard to say this one is really better or that one is better. Dragic, Lowry and Lawson are a great example. Lowry has been the best 3pt shooter among the 3 for the last several seasons. Dragic is an elite finisher around the rim and but not as consistent of a 3pt shooter as Lowry. Both are way above average as a scoring option and good but not great as a distributer. I think both are also above average on defense with Lowry getting the edge. Lawson is by for the superior ball distributor among the 3. He is a better finisher at the rim than Lowry and a more consistent 3pt shooter than Dragic. Overall I think Lawson is the better offensive option than either Dragic or Lowry because his ability to run and offense and distribute the ball is elite. Lawson's defense is not as good as either Lowry or Dragic though. So which one is better? I don't know. They are all really really good and any of them will help the Rockets a ton. But since the Rockets have Lawson I would prefer to think about the passing ability and his ability to get the ball to players in the post on the break or the half court which is something the Rockets have had trouble with for many years. Just the fact that we have one of these guys to pair with Harden, Howard and the rest of the team without having to give up anything of value is just remarkable IMO. So rank Lawson will you will. It doesn't matter because so many of those point guards are so close in value to each other that it really didn't matter which one the Rockets landed.
This question was asked in the Dish, and it's funny that now all of a sudden he's become this amazing PG. He's good, better than average, top 20, arguably top 15. But not top 10.
Now that he is a rocket he is. When he leaves people will call him an over paid scrub. I think you can make a case for him. He is a lot better than bev.
My opinion - 1. Curry 2. Westbrook 3. CP3 4. Wall 5. Irving 6. Lillard 7. Dragic 8. Parker 9. Conley 10. Lawson 11. Lowry 12. Teague 13. Bledsoe 14. Rose 15. Hill I think Lawson, Lowry, Teague is debatable, but regardless, he's right there and IMO his true PG skills are what elevates him above Lowry, Teague, and even Rose. You could also easily put Harden in this list too at #2 (or #1 even). I'm very interested to see what happens to this team, and especially Harden now that he gets to move over into more of a scoring role than just a point guard role assuming Lawson and Harden mesh well, and they can play together.
What makes Wall better than Ty Lawson? They have similar numbers for their career with most advanced stats in Ty's favor and Ty Lawson won 57 games in the west as the best player on the team.
I think crash5179 is correct in that some near the bottom 10 are really hard to properly gauge. Lowry, Bledsoe, Dragic, Lawson, Teague, Parker, Rose...I mean, I would not be able to confidently say one of them is clearly better than the other. Arguably top 10 PG is a very good way to describe Lawson. I think he's DEFINITELY top 15 PG...
If he can average 13 and 8, and most importantly cut turnovers I think with the rockets could easily be top 10 as long as he's not too big of a liability defense.
Lawson was Ana was always better tha Dragic and Lowry. People are scared to be called homers but Lawson is a top 10 PG. and honestly I don't think it's close. 16 and 10 on a trash Denver team he didn't want to play for.
Lol you really believe all those players are better than Lawson. You put Dragic or Lowry on Denver in place of Lawson right now and Denver is most likely the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the league.
