Is trying to connect Mosques in America to Terrorism by essentially showing a population density map (strange how there are more mosques in areas with a lot more people!) - does it reflect prejudice. Keeping in mind most people who have prejudice are unaware that they indeed are prejudice. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9266527&postcount=193
Thanks for the heads-up. But you should be more concerned about radical Christians on the East Coast,especially in New York. They have their eye on Washington for reasons that don't need to be explained:
You don't think trying to connect Mosques with terrorism is a bit pejorative? What if I tried to connect Jews to banking? Is that ok?
that's not the same thing is it ATW is equating number of mosques to the number of Islamic terrorist organizations I mean obviously there would be more concentration of Islamic terrorists in States where there are more Muslims than not, how can there be Islamic terrorists in places with no Muslims. it's not exactly stereotyping, it's just not a good argument Is it racist to say that the concentration of Chinese people in America correlates with the number of Triad presence, not really, but it's most likely true.
Oh it is definitely that but I don't think it's racist. Leave the Jews out of this or ATW will flip his lid!
Terrorism has more stigma than six-figure bonuses. Also, E.F. Hijab and Drexel Bhutto Lambert never discriminated against Arabs who wanted in.
Before anyone tries to argue that hating Islam and Muslims is not "racism", think to yourselves--what do you think of when you think of a "Muslim". Are you thinking of Kate Upton? Are you thinking of Christoph Waltz? Are you thinking of Lucy Liu? Are you thinking of George Lopez? Or are you thinking of a bearded, dark-skinned Arab? And that's what makes it "racist". No one thinks of a Western Chinese Muslim, or a Bosnian Muslim, or an Indonesian Muslim, or a recently converted White American/European Muslim. No one takes into account the full breadth and diversity of Islam when they think about how much they hate Islam and Muslims. They're thinking of a brown, West Asian Muslim. If others are too blind to see through the bull**** of "Islam is not a race so it's not racist if I hate 'em all!", then we're basically giving into a new code of racism. I can assure you that white supremacists know full well what "hating Muslims" is all about--just because others are too naive to see it doesn't mean that the intention isn't there all the same.
When you talk about Muslim stereotyping, do you think of Cannonball Run and Merchant of Venice? Back then we used to just tease them for their oil, or make fun of how they talk, then they started blowing **** up. That doesn't make it racist, just forensically accurate with regards to terrorism.
I'm not talking about preconceived suspicions revolving around terrorism, I'm referring to the broader phenomenon of people comfortably condemning an entire group of people--which they subconsciously perceive to look a certain way--while reassuring themselves that they aren't racists, because "Islam isn't a race".
The thread title and the poll question are two different questions. It's very telling that New Yorker is mixing both of them up.
Are we sure Cannonball Run wasn't a dry run for terrorizing the Gumball 3000? Either way, you can't trust a swarthy Middle Eastern oil baron.
I think you perceive that charges of racism are more damaging, and less easily rebutted by documenting behavior, morals and philosophies, than those of religious stereotyping, so you need to convolute and conflate the demographic criteria to make the accusation fit.
Gave this forum up a year ago or so. Check back, same stuff is still going on in the top thread. Slightly racist and incredibly stupid. See you guys next year!
He is linking Mosques to acts of terrorism - he's clearly implying that Islam leads to terrorism which is clearly pejorative. I mean, if you linked Synagogues to white collar crime I think it would be no doubt you'd have the ADL after you, right? I think it does cross a line.
If you learn how to bend your legs backwards and above your head between now and then, you'll finally be able to get over yourself.
Of course pointing out the racial subtext of Islamophobia is a "convolution of demographic criteria"--that is exactly the problem in the first place as that's exactly what makes it a racist dilemma. When the demographics of Islam span over many difference races and ethnicities yet people still view Muslims as having a monolithic phenotype of hairy, brown, furrowed-brow man from a West Asian country, then what else can you call it?
So you are trying the trick of saying that anyone who criticizes Islam must be a racist, thereby putting Islam beyond reproach. This is a very popular trick with Islamists such as yourself. The same kind of people would love to silence any critics of Islam, some with more violence, some with less.
