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Is there any logical reason Harden and Parsons should be in for a defensive possession?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, May 3, 2014.

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  1. trugoy

    trugoy Member

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    The final play is fitting. Our worst two defenders botch a play so badly to give up a buzzer beater to lose the series.

    Here is a breakdown of the play;

    1. Parsons is caught sleeping as he is flat footed and Lilliard loses him without a screen. This isn't even a possession that Parsons got screened off, he literally just loses him as Lilliard just out hustles Parsons to the spot.

    2. Harden is the only defender who has a chance to rotate to Lilliard, if Harden hedges at all and only slightly changes Lilliards trajectory, he would give Parsons a half second to catch up, OR force Lilliard to shoot from further out, as it is Lilliard shoots from well over 3 feet beyond the 3 point line. Instead, he just passively watches as Lilliard is completely open.

    3. Even as Parsons is beaten, he is long enough that he still could contest, but If you look at the route that Parsons takes, EVEN if he is in step with Lilliard, he still couldn't contest the shot since his route takes him along the 3 point line, and Lilliard was 3 feet beyond it. If he had actually run straight at Lilliard, he could've still contested the shot, but because he ran parallel to Lilliard, he couldn't contest it no matter what.

    4. Why in god's name would Parsons or Harden be in a game with a 0.9second defensive possession? They are the worst defenders on the team, and there is no more time for a rebound or a fast break. A better coach would put Garcia in to sub for Harden, and Lin in for Parsons. I guarantee that Lin or Garcia would rotate to Lilliard if his primary defender was beaten.
     
    #1 trugoy, May 3, 2014
  2. THE DR34M

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    Good post.

    NO Reason our two worst defenders should be in.

    Where was Lin? He got subbed out for who?
     
    #2 THE DR34M, May 3, 2014
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    battier would have perfect. I remember back in 09 when nate mccmilan was their coach and had to hide his hand inside his jacket cause battier was able to tead the plays and warn his team mates. then mccmilan would burn another time out to change the play AND Battier would still break the play. but anyone would be able to read lillards play
     
    #3 arabrocket, May 3, 2014
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    Yeah,that's been the season. Poor situational basketball. There a lot of fails on that last play.
     
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  5. trugoy

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    He's a free agent this summer.
     
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    Lin definitely would rotate, he is known for "over-helping", on the flip side, if Lin contested the shoot and it still went in, he will be grilled inside out no matter what.
     
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    Lillard did these things before. Buzzer beater at the same spot during regular season. The coaching staff should have anticipated and preempt. What a poor job !
     
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  8. trugoy

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    Even more interesting is that Harden ordered the switch on the court, directly going against Mchale's instructions to "stay with your man".

    Now we can speculate why Harden ordered it, I think the reason is because he saw the blazer's lineup and formation and correctly deduced that the blazers were going to run Lilliard off a double screen. His ordering the switch is so Beverly can "switch" onto Lilliard when the screen comes.

    The problem is that Harden never in his mind thought he was in the play, it was his job to rotate onto Lilliard, but in his mind, it seems like it was Beverly and Parsons job to defend the play.
     
    #8 trugoy, May 3, 2014
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    Harden did the right thing, with Parsons trailing Lillard he couldn't have left his man without giving up a layup. You can rotate to cover for Parsons if Parsons is in position to pick up the man who gets left open, and he was about 5 feet behind the play entirely.
     
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    Missing U Ronnie Brewer
     
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    Lol no one is missing Ronnie Brewer
     
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  12. trugoy

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    Harden could and should've rotated to Lilliard, Bev was in position to rotate to any backdoor cuts.
     
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    I thought Lin was the worse defender on this team? He had to be replaced by tony Douglas, ummm oops, I mean pb because of his poor defense?
     
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    Parsons is a good enough defender, but he should not have been on Lillard. McHale should've organized switches to defend the perimeter, so Parsons never should have had to try to battle around a double pick.

    Harden probably should've been gone in favor of Garcia.
     
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    There was no picks, Lilliard saw the Bev, Parsons switch and basically made a decision to shoot the gap. Without waiting for the double screen.

    Lilliard, who is a playoff rookie, in his second year in the league, out thought our entire coaching staff.
     
    #15 trugoy, May 3, 2014
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    the problem is we don't have any wing defenders that could've replaced them. garcia who hasn't played all series, daniels who's bad on D... casspi? covington? canaan? i mean who else SHOULD'VE been out there?

    what was wrong was not WHO was out there but rather what they did (or did not do)

    1) beverley on lillard, lin on williams, parsons on mathews, dwight on LMA, and harden is the free safety running at wherever the ball is thrown.

    why this works: bev is our best defender on their best perimeter player. lin has done a good job on mowill all series, dwight on LMA obviously. parsons on matthews because harden is bad at D. harden the free safety because he can't be trusted to guard any one person but can fun towards wherever the pass is thrown.

    2) switch on everything

    mchale should've known what play they like to run in that situation. JVG used to know the opponents plays and tell his team exactly who's going to run where. i GUARANTEE this wasn't the first time all season the blazers ran this play in a similar situation. lillard off a staggered screen towards the ball. switch on every screen so that lillard doesn't get open (even if his defender is late to react).

    3) don't guard the passer

    even IF lillard manages to out run bev off the screens, and whoever switches on to him is late, you have a free defender running toward wherever the ball is thrown. harden (in my situation) should've been that person. he would've met lillard head on with whoever else switch onto him trailing. with two guys on lillard, batum would look somewhere else for the pass (or not) and we'd be going to game seven.

    3 things that almost any AAU coach would know how to do, with built in contingency plans... inexcusable that out coach didnt do it.
     
    #16 smoothie, May 3, 2014
  17. nolimitation

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    U look at the last play before the inbound, Parson and Beverley decided to switch on their own. This was not Mchale move.
     
    #17 nolimitation, May 3, 2014
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