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Is the NRA in financial trouble?

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  1. A_3PO

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    Some believe the NRA is going soft.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...alists-pressure-nra-from-within-idUSKBN1KQ09H

    Hardline U.S. 'gundamentalists' pressure NRA from within

    Daniel Trotta
    6 MIN READ

    Association’s annual meeting in Dallas in May to slam the powerful gun lobby as too conciliatory on gun rights and rally for their candidate for the board.

    Adam Kraut, a gun rights lawyer, fell about 4,000 votes short of the 71,000 needed for election, but earned 5,000 more than the previous year, a sign of the growth of the Second Amendment purists within the NRA known to many as “gundamentalists.”

    With opinion polls showing U.S. public support for more gun control growing in the wake of mass shootings in recent years, the NRA is facing internal pressure from this little-known force that is demanding that the leadership concede zero ground to gun-control advocates.

    Its rise has rattled the NRA leadership and threatens the association’s ability to hold on to moderate supporters and to make compromises that might help fend off tougher gun control measures, according to some of the two dozen gun-rights activists, policy experts and gun-control advocates interviewed for this story.

    “Generally, they have a disproportionately huge amount of power in the gun-rights movement,” said Richard Feldman, a former NRA lobbyist.

    The NRA has faced divisions before. An internal revolt at the 1977 meeting in Cincinnati turned the polite, sport-shooting organization into a bare-knuckled political lobby that today claims five million members and is closely aligned with the Republican Party, funding pro-gun politicians. The NRA, which spent $30 million to support Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, is often viewed by gun-control advocates as implacably opposed to tighter gun laws.

    The NRA leadership has put up obstacles to Kraut’s election, both with bylaws that make it harder for candidates not put forward by the nominating committee to get elected to the board, and by enlisting a senior member to campaign against him.

    Marion Hammer, a past president of the NRA and one of the group’s most successful lobbyists, denounced unsanctioned candidates in a column on the website Ammoland just as Kraut appeared on the 2018 ballot. Though Hammer did not name Kraut, he was one of only two non-approved candidates to run.

    “Once again the NRA is being threatened by the enemy within,” Hammer wrote. “It is time to wake up and stop it before it begins.”

    Gun rights proponent Adam Kraut, speaks to NRA members about his candidacy for a seat on the board of the National Rifle Association (NRA) at the organisation's convention in Dallas, Texas, U.S., May 5, 2018. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
    Neither the NRA nor Hammer responded to requests to address the influence of the gundamentalists and the criticism that these activists and other gun-rights groups directed at the lobby.

    SOCIAL MEDIA PRESSURE
    The Dallas protesters, almost all white men, included bearded outdoorsmen and buttoned-down libertarians. Some said they hid their T-shirts while entering the conventional hall for fear that NRA security would ban them.

    Kraut, 31, who says he grew up in a house without guns but as an adult taught his father how to shoot, practices firearms law in suburban Philadelphia and also hosts a video blog called The Legal Brief on The Gun Collective, a YouTube channel.

    He has campaigned for the NRA to push for even more expansive gun-rights laws. He wants to change NRA bylaws, such as imposing term limits for board members and mandatory meeting attendance, to renew its leadership.

    “Some members feel it (the NRA) doesn’t go far enough to defend what we believe to be the core of the Second Amendment,” Kraut told Reuters.

    One of Kraut’s most prominent supporters, Tim Harmsen, who led the pro-Kraut march through the convention center, has 770,000 subscribers to the Military Arms Channel on YouTube, where he criticizes the NRA for being weak on gun laws.

    “We’re going to continue to apply pressure (on the NRA) every way that we can through social media and we’ll be there again next year,” Harmsen said.

    These hardliners deeply cherish their right under the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment to keep and bear arms. They oppose any form of gun control, saying criminals will find ways around gun laws, which only strip lawful gun owners of the right to self-defense and protection against state tyranny.

    The gun-rights purists are outraged by any concessions the NRA makes in the wake of mass shootings, even if they are made to avoid stricter gun control laws. Opinion polls such as a regular Gallup survey show growing support for gun control in recent years. Within that trend, support for gun control typically spikes immediately after mass shootings, then falls closer to pre-massacre levels within a few months.

    After a shooter killed 58 people at a country music concert in Las Vegas last year, the NRA supported federal regulation of bump stocks, accessories that the gunman used to fire his semiautomatic rifles more quickly. The Justice Department then ordered an effective ban that is close to being finalized.

    Amid nationwide protests that followed a Florida high school shooting that killed 17 people in February, the NRA endorsed strengthening background checks for gun purchasers and emergency protection orders that allow law-enforcement officials to temporarily take guns away from people deemed dangerous.

    “For us, some of the things that come out of NRA headquarters are just outrageous and abhorrent,” said Jeff Knox, a Kraut supporter whose father, Neal Knox, led the “Revolt at Cincinnati” in 1977. “It’s: Holy cow, what are these guys thinking?”

    Reporting by Daniel Trotta; Editing by Dina Kyriakidou and Frances Kerry
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Fundraising scheme?

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  3. No Worries

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    NRA has ceded ground?

    The "gundamentalists" may not be happy unless gun control advocated are shot on sight, while they stand their ground supporting the 2nd amendment.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    Found some money I guess... :rolleyes:

     
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    Wayne LaPierre says NRA President Oliver North is extorting him and pressuring him to resign
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    Gold.
     
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    NRA are a bunch of lunatics who think the right to be able to shoot up 100 people in minutes is rational whereas in reality they are just a tool of the gun lobby.
     
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    Insightful. Would read again. 10/10
     
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    Since reading isn't your cup of tea, once is enough.
     
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    Thoughts and prayers.
     
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    I suggest Wayne LePierre and Oliver North settle their differences in a duel with AR 15's as Wayne might not have the experience being a cold blooded killer with a pistol that Ollie may well have.
     
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    North has reportedly been ousted
     
  15. glynch

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    Weep not for Ollie. He will be hired as a special assistant for overthrowing Latin American governments w. convicted war criminal Eliot Abrahms and the gang.
     
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    Keep paying those dues boys!

     
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    I’ve said more than once down here over the years that the NRA had morphed into a corrupt shadow of what it used to be, which was a relatively uncorrupted shadow. I told folks that the leadership were paid huge salaries and perks, but few seemed to notice. I doubt if that’ll change. The NRA used to be more of a bipartisan organization involved in promoting gun safety, gun clubs, competitions and the like. Now? They are essentially an arm of the corrupted version of the Republican Party we see today, much like Fox News, with the NRA, as has been pointed out, spending $millions$ of members dues to support trump and his spineless supporters in Congress, who have sold our country down the river.

    So now that it’s coming out that the president of that organization, Wayne LaPartisanHack, blew members dues on all sorts of personal stuff, like huge amounts on clothes, trips abroad, and other stuff having nothing to do with the NRA. So what happens? Nothing. Will the membership rise up and overthrow the corrupt leadership wasting their dues on themselves? Highly unlikely. They’re too busy wrapping their collective mouths around their hero’s tiny mushroom member in the Oval Office, figuratively speaking, of course. Mushrooms grow in the dark, which seems appropriate. Maybe they glow in the dark. I don’t know. Perhaps if someone brings down a Black Light into the White House basement.

    And so it goes.
     
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    Has Russia run out of money? If not, NRA should be good.
     
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  20. NewRoxFan

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    The new nra president is off to a good start...

     
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