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Is Les Alexander In Financial Trouble?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. Newlin

    Newlin Member

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    If Les needs money, I know where he can get a $1000 Amazon gift card.
     
  2. crash5179

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    After reading your post I don't think you understand how the cap or non-guaranteed contracts work. The beauty of a non-guaranteed contract is that you can cut them any time you want for cap relief, there is no point in cutting them today unless you need the cap space today.

    And apparently Daryl Morey, who's been pretty damn good at evaluating late 1st and 2nd round talent, doesn't agree with you that Semi Ojeleye or Frank Mason III were better NBA prospects then Troy Williams.

    And lets be honest about one thing, nobody drafted at pick 27 or later is going to walk in the door and be as good as Lou Williams in the next couple of seasons. Certainly Frank Mason III wasn't going to walk in the door and steal playing time away from Harden, Lou, Pat, EG or either of Kyle Lowry or CP3 should we end up added one of those guys.

    The Rockets are already set to add Zhou Qi to the roster as a stretch 4. I'm not sure how many rookie 2nd round picks you think a team can add to a roster in one season and remain competitive. I for one happen to agree with the Rockets philosophy, don't draft a player that may be just barely good enough to make your team and ride the pine all season. Draft a player with higher upside and let him play and develop in Europe for a season or two and then bring him over.

    And last, if your upset that the Rockets are not as good as the Warriors then welcome to every team in the league not named the Warriors. At the top is the Warriors and on the 2nd level (way below the 1st) is the Cavs, Spurs and Rockets.

    If you are a fan for team for 50 years you are very likely going to see a championship for your team at some point. There are a few exceptions but by and large almost every NBA city will have a championship at some point during that time span. However, your chance at seeing more than 1 or 2 championships in that time span are very poor. Your chances of having a dynasty type of run like the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Spurs or Warriors is even more remote. So while we are all disappointed each year the Rockets don't win the championship, don't be so quick to turn your nose up at a 55 win season.
     
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  3. Zboy

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    Not a good time to be in financial trouble with medicaid and food stamp cuts looming around.
     
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    Damn. you having that problem too? can't stay on clutchfans for more then 10 minutes before that junk pops up.
     
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  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    OR! What for it!

    Maybe More didn't care for any of the players you guys are crying over. Maybe his targeted player was drafted earlier and he chose to punt.

    I know that sounds crazy huh?
     
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  6. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Never should have uncle Le$ stormed the court after the $1 beer night in the playoffs. It cost him a huge fine and now he is about to file for bankruptcy.

    $1 beers cost him his lifetime....
     
  7. HTM

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    If Les Alexander is in financial trouble then consider me fu****.
     
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  8. basketballholic

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    You don't understand how the cap works. A minimum salary slot is a minimum salary slot. Second rounders are minimum salary slots.


    There are essentially 17 roster spots this season. Not 15.

    One of the huge keys to the Warriors success was they hit on multiple players in the late first, early second round. Drafting Ezeli and Green and establishing them is primary Ruston players early gave the Warriors plenty if trade flexibility and free agent cap flexibility.

    This draft was the deepest draft in years. It was the perfect opportunity to add a couple solid rotation pieces like Mason and Ball on dirt cheap deals that would not affect our cap.


    The Golden State Warriors, whom teams should be looking to emulate, bought Ball for $3.5 million. In the process, they gave the Bulls the money to buy out Rondo, a point guard that they might sign cheap as a Livingston replacement.

    There is a reason why the Warriors are where they are today. Because they were very smart with their cap and transactions. They locked down Curry early on a cheap deal when he was having injury issues. They did this instead of trade him for some ten-year vet that they would have had to give the super max to. They didn't sign mid-level players to gargantuan, over priced deals.

    Instead they picked up rotation pieces for pennies.

    And they just did it again last night. While everybody else was picking their nose, waiting for a big trade to come along. (What happens if it doesn't?) (Will we be good enough if it does?)

    Here's what we've done.

    Signed Dwight as our second superstar.
    Instead of designing a system to keep our two main guys happy we let the ship get lopsided and tossed away Dwight like a used dog bone.

    Threw away Lin as a sunken cost because we didn't need another playmaker. Let Parsons go without replacing his playmaking. (Didn't need playmaking.)

    Traded for Lawson after Harden ran around with him all summer.

    Chased max guys in free agency and failed.

    Forced our way into the playoffs.

    Chased Al Horford and Kent Bazemore in the playoffs. Can you imagine where we would be as a franchise if we had signed those two?

    Chased and signed Anderson and Gordon and tied up our cap with Anderson's overpriced deal. All the while knowing we weren't going to beat the Warriors without another serious upgrade. (Upgrading our risk profile thinking we could turn Anderson into Love.)

    Dicked around with DMo all summer, MDA recruiting him, telling him we wanted him, getting DMo to wait for us while we tried to sign Horford (understandable), but then signing Anderson (not understandable) and then screwing around with DMo some more, to the point we lost him altogether.

    (You can attempt to justify how we handled DMo all you want. What we did to him and his market value was atrocious and we paid for it.)

    Do you realize that if we had just signed DMo to the deal we finally agreed to and bit our lip and waived the physical instead of pitching a fit about his incentives and then not waiving the physical, that he may have helped us in the playoffs and worst case we would have a huge tradeable asset right now? Can you at least see that the way we handled DMo cost us an asset? More penny pinching here.

    Don't get a big man upgrade for the playoffs. Don't tell me there were no bigs available that were better defensively than Harrell and Anderson. That's bull.

    Fritter away the draft last night while the Warriors pull a coup. Left the money on the table.

    Now we're putting our eggs into the free agent/trade basket, hoping to sign Paul and trade for George. Which will land lock our cap in three guys when the Warriors have better guys on their bench then we'll have starting around those three IF, IF we even manage to pull it off.
    And then were stuck with Harden, an aging Paul making $40 mill per on bad knees, and hopefully we re-sign George and hope he don't walk on us.

    But......What if we lose out on George and Paul? Now what? We're stuck.

    Last night was an opportunity. We didn't even get off the bench and go to the batters box.

    The decisions this organization has made over the last three seasons are baffling.
     
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    TL;DR version

    Daryl Maury is vastly underperforming?
     
  10. burnshroom

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    TL; DR, which is kinda the point I guess.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    His problem is and was he isn't a great basketball mind, and not even a good one.
     
  12. basketballholic

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    In my opinion, what is happening to Morey is he is having to try to make up for bad decisions that were forced on him by Les over the last three years. He's having to try to hit grand slams and is concentrating so much time and effort on those things that he can't get the little singles and doubles done. There's no way an analytic and scout of Morey's ilk passes on the opportunities that were available in the early second round unless he's distracted trying to meet trade demands of another team and GM (pritchard) that had not put in the correct amount of time researching this draft instead of Morey just going about his own business.
     
  13. megastahr

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    Yah it's annoying making not even want to login ... @Clutch why are you letting these junky/glitchy ads ruin your site
     
  14. heypartner

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    You have no idea if those picks were for sell (other than Bell), so you are inherently claiming insider knowledge to suggest we blew it. Les/Morey have bought many picks in the past, pretty much teaching the league that strategy. So, not like they are shy or foreign to the concept.

    Can't believe you are saying Morey is stupid for not buying the players you wanted. Imagine us drafting Mason, then some 'holic doppleganger at another site says the same thing about his team...."I can't believe we didn't buy Mason from the Rockets. We're so cheap."

    I guess you don't even realize when you are expirating pseudo insider knowledge l(ike all those players were for sell), because every thing you say is an attempt to sound smarter and more informed than everyone else....so it all sounds the same to you.
     
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    And don't forget, Morey is Harden's puppet, too. He has to do what Harden wants ... hence, no Wubio.
     
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  16. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Yeah you're absolving Maury of all blame and putting everything on Le$ shoulders. I think you overrate Murray and your go to position is to attack Les and blame Harden....

    Let's face it, Maury is a very mediocre drafter. The same analytic Murrey passed on Kawhi, drafted Royce White etc etc.

    Les has always been willing to buy 2nd round picks....
     
  17. heypartner

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    and here I was making a joke last night about Les being cheap in the FIRE Morey thread, to find basketballholic actually believes it ... lulz

     
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  18. bloodwings19

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    Remember Mr. Alexander went to berate the bias referee in the playoffs. Do you know how much the fine was? Did you see Mr Rocket try to fight it, or say something to it? If Uncle Bob didn't have Oilers abandon Houston, Rockets owner would be #1 in Htown.
     
  19. topfive

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    Are you referring to Lonzjordan Ball? Or his brother LeMeljordan Ball or LiAnjordan Ball? I'm confused.

    I can totally see how having Dwight, Lin, and DMo on our team makes us Warriors-killers. Especially considering the MONSTER years Dwight and DMo had for their new teams. Hell, there's no way the Hawks would be stupid enough to trade Dwight after all he accomplished for them this year.

    I have a brilliant idea, though. Let's start a GoFundMe campaign to help Le$ out of his dire financial situation! Who's with me on this?
     
  20. Tha_Dude

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    You said Harden is the one who controls the Rockets front office, now you say it's Les. Make up your mind, who is the evil guy behind the curtains making all of these bad decisions????
     

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