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Is Johnny Football the Pick We Are Missing?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by solid, Dec 18, 2013.

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  1. Uprising

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    Would be something this franchise had never had. I'd be for it. But obviously if traded down.
     
  2. htownb4lla

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    A QB that is not clutch? We've had plenty of that. Ill pass
     
  3. Refman

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    A lot of the criticisms of Manziel's game as it relates to the NFL I have heard before when Seattle selected Russell Wilson. We all have seen how that has turned out. With the right coaching, Johnny would be a lot closer to Wilson than he will be to VY.

    The on field results for Wilson have changed everything for running QBs. That is the blueprint for being successful.
     
  4. TheChosenOne

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    I don't remember hearing about all the off-field issues for Wilson though.
     
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    They are both small, but I don't think they play similar styles at all. Wilson in college wasn't really a running QB. He scrambled a bit, but he only ran for 300-400 yards a year and averaged a terrible 3 ypc. Manziel takes much more direct and brutal hits than NFL Wilson (didn't see enough of college Wilson to know what he did there) - he needs to figure out how to stop that while still remaining effective and dynamic.
     
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    yea all that "partying" in the offseason was really a detriment to his game this season:rolleyes:
     
  7. XIrocket

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    Manziel would be great! Also it would be funny to watch all Aggie hating Texans fans heads explode.

    lol..



    Gig em!
     
  8. Ziggy

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    Agreed. Wilson never struck me as a runner. I'm sure a lot of people here would be surprised to hear Tannehill is just as fast as Wilson. Wilson also never had 9 seconds in the pocket on a regular basis. Aside from their height I really don't see many similarities.

    Manziel really does look like Tarkenton when he moves out there but I have no idea what that means in today's NFL.

    I'm not too worried about Manziel taking hits. He isn't like Tebow or Newton, I think his game can evolve and he will learn to reduce collisions. I am worried about him not having time in the pocket though. I can see him taking sacks if he cant get used to 3 second windows and learn to walk away from extending every single play with his feet. Manziel seems to look 25-40 yards down the field on every single passing down.
     
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    Johnny Football or Teddy Touchdown?

    As long as we win..
     
  10. Rick Rambis

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    Lots of fail on the analysis of Manziel on these posts.

    I am not sure the Texans should take him #1 overall, but people are stupid to think that he will last until the 2nd or 3rd round. Guy's competitiveness will cause him to shoot up the draft charts. Fairly certain he will be a top 10 pick
     
  11. today

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    I feel the complete opposite, I think his ability to perform in the clutch is one of his strengths.

    Manziel has had PLENTY of clutch 4th quarter performances over the last 2 years. IMO he would have completed the comeback against Auburn (playing hurt) were it not for a blatant horsecollar that was blown by the refs. It would have been 1st and 10 from the 12 yard line with 20+ seconds left, plenty of time for 4 shots at the end zone.

    I'd love to see him as our QB next year, but I'd rather see his stock fall for some reason and have us get him at 2.1 instead of in the first round. I think he's the only QB in the draft that has a chance to become elite (top 5 QB), but his downside is his elevated risk of injury.
     
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    Manziel will go in the top 10.

    Tbh, I don't trust his work ethic. He's all about being famous, girls and partying. Great for him but not at the expense of the team I root for.
     
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    He's doing things now that quarterbacks do when they turn pro anyway. There's almost a case to be made that he's better prepared for these challenges because he's already been through it all before.

    From everything I've read he has a great work ethic and even does his own training on the side. Not sure what the Manning camp deal was.
     
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    Like this guy?

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    I think it is funny that there are writers out there advocating taking Manziel because he is a dynamic personality and the Texans have been too bland to this point. That's a stupid reason to advocate for one player over another. No one would care how boring Matt Schaub was if he was putting Aaron Rogers numbers up there and winning Super Bowls. If you think Manziel is the best QB in the draft and has the best chance to make the Texans a SB contender, you take him first. None of the other personality stuff should factor in (except as far as it might effect his on-field product...like getting DUIs and being suspended).
     
  17. solid

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    Can't tell me that McNair and OBrien won't have a "conversation" about the possibility of Manziel. He is a once in lifetime kind of talent. Whether his skill set will transfer to the NFL no one knows, but is he worth the chance?
     
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    The ultimate "wildcard" but I can't take a wildcard at number one.
     
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    He's 21 and the first freshman ever to win the Heisman. Tell me that wouldn't go to your head, even a little bit.

    And what has he done during the season to make you doubt his work ethic?
     
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    Another example of his ability to perform in the clutch. Hands down he's the best leader in this draft, and has that "it" factor, the intangibles that make superstars rise above the rest.

    I'm hoping we trade down and get him someplace in the teens.

    NFL Combine? CAN'T WAIT!!! 7 weeks away!
     
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