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Intl' Red Cross helped deliver Saddam's letter to publish in Jordan's newspaper

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wnes, Aug 21, 2005.

  1. wnes

    wnes Contributing Member

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    What difference is there between IRC and the convicted lawyer Lynne Stewart on 'helping U.S. enemies'?

    Saddam says his soul to be 'sacrificed'

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/21/saddam.letter/index.html

    Former Iraqi dictator sends letter to friend from prison

    Sunday, August 21, 2005; Posted: 6:57 p.m. EDT (22:57 GMT)

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (CNN) -- Imprisoned former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein wrote in a letter published Sunday that he is prepared to sacrifice himself for the Arab cause, and called on other Arabs to follow his example.

    "In our glorious nation, my soul, and what I have been born on, is to be sacrificed to it," the letter said, in what the context suggested was an apparent reference to all Arabs.

    Parts of the letter were published Sunday by two Jordanian newspapers. Saddam sent it to a friend in Jordan, who has asked not to be identified, said the International Committee of the Red Cross, which vouched for its authenticity.

    The Red Cross delivered the missive from Saddam, who is awaiting trial on charges connected with a 1982 series of detentions and executions following an assassination attempt against him in Dujayl, north of Baghdad.

    Saddam has been in custody since December 2003, when he was captured by U.S. troops. The letter appeared to include thoughts about his incarceration.

    "Where is life without faith and love and the harmony which is inherited in our nation?" he wrote in Arabic.

    "It is not too much for a man to answer the call of his nation with all that he possesses, and with his soul, yet it is what the nation deserves," the letter said, an apparent call for others to follow his lead.

    "My brother, love your people, love Palestine, long live Palestine, love your nation," he wrote.

    The single-page letter, undated and written in ink, was delivered August 16, Red Cross spokeswoman Rania Sidani said. The letter was partially blacked out by military censors, and the words "Family News Only" were stamped at the top in English.

    But a lawyer representing Saddam, Khalil al-Dulaimi, said he was not aware of any letter.

    And Abdul Haq al-Ani, whom Saddam's eldest daughter Raghad has identified as the family's lawyer, told CNN, "I have no idea about this thing. I cannot comment or help you in this matter."

    Tayseer Homsi, a politician with the Jordanian Arab Baath Socialist Party, told reporters it was good for people to know the ousted leader's thoughts.

    The charges stemming from the reprisals that followed the 1982 assassination attempt are the first of several Saddam is expected to face.

    He appeared before an Iraqi tribunal in July 2004 to hear a list of preliminary charges against him.

    The charges include the 1990 invasion of Kuwait; the 1986-88 Anfal campaign against the Kurdish minority in northern Iraq; the 1988 chemical attack on the Kurdish town of Halabja during that campaign; and the suppression of the 1991 revolts by Iraq's Kurdish and Shiite populations.

    Shiites and Kurds were repressed by Saddam's regime. Sunni Arabs constituted the ruling class under Saddam's now-defunct Baath party, despite being a minority in the country.

    But Sunnis largely boycotted January's election for a transitional government, with Shiites and Kurds faring best in the vote.

    Disagreement among the three groups on the role of federalism is among the key sticking points that has caused a delay in the adoption of a draft constitution.

    As the deadline approached last Monday, the National Assembly voted for a one-week extension to allow for further negotiations.
     
  2. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Contributing Member

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    Saddam has always seen himself as the 'pan-Arab' leader, following in Gamal Abdel-Nasser's footsteps. Saddam's political philosophy was to more or less have all the Arabs unite as one, which is essentially what his letter reflects. That mentality got Nasser in trouble, and now got him in trouble. Saddam had always held disdain for the Gulf leaders (mainly the Saudi royals and Kuwait) because he believed they hurt the Arab causes, and were mere servants for Western neo-imperialism.

    It might surprise some, but Saddam might be considered a racist in some ways. He believed in the 'superiority' of the Arab, which was reflected by his rule over Iraq and his disdain for the Iranians and the Kurds. I think it might be fair to consider him an 'Arab supremacist' in some ways, which also applies to the Sudanese leadership.
     
  3. wnes

    wnes Contributing Member

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    That's a pretty reasonable summary there by tigermission1 regarding Saddam.

    However, as far as I am concerned, the moral of the story is that if some Saddam loyalists (let's say Sunni Iraqis), inspired by his letter, waged another round of bloody resistance against the occupying forces, would IRC be accused of aiding the enemies of the U.S., and the person(s) responsible for transporting the letter be charged with crime like the lawyer Lynne Stewart and her associates? By inference, wouldn't IRC be a terrorist organization in disguise? Further, by some reasonable stretch, wouldn't Senate Elizabeth Dole be a former ring leader of the local chapter of an international terrorist organization?
     
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  4. Deckard

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    I'm assuming that today Saddam is considered a prisoner of the Iraqi Provisional Government, held under US custody. Whether that government is considered legitimate by the international community is something I do not know, but Saddam is being held by the US, and he was a prisoner of war. Accordingly, unless that status has changed as recognized by the Geneva Convention, he has the right to recieve and to send letters. Here is the appropriate quote:

    Section V, article 71 of the Geneva Convention on prisoners of war says, "Prisoners of war shall be allowed to send and receive letters and cards."

    "Such letters and cards must be conveyed by the most rapid method at the disposal of the Detaining Power; they may not be delayed or retained for disciplinary reasons," the convention reads.


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/14/iraq/printable623070.shtml

    Those letters are subject to censorship that might affect security, and possibly other subjects, one would think, but the right to send and recieve such letters is a very old one, pre-dating WWII. Now, I found this during a quick google, and while Saddam's status may have "officially changed," I'm not sure if that change is one that is, or would be , recognized by the Geneva Convention. These exchanges have traditionally been carried out by the International Red Cross during wartime.

    If this has been covered before, I apologize. I just wanted to point out that the exchange of letters, via the International Red Cross, is an established practice under the Geneva Convention. Saddam certainly was a prisoner of war when he was captured.



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