[inside the nba-Barkley]Dwight Howard '' He don't even know how to Post up ''

It's been a couple years since he developed some post moves. He's more effective in the post than most of the bigmen in the league. Duncan had difficulties defending him in the post 1 on 1 this series. He's got doubled/hacked quite often and he's getting smart enough to pass out some good assists.

That being said, his post moves are pretty simple compared to Yao.

 

that's the best I've ever heard from Shaq, awesome analysis, when he's passionate about something he knows about it really shines though

 

However, ..., he still had some good years. I would still love to him because of those years.

 

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This is the best summary for Howard. I just hope he stays in LA, then Fakers will never win a title anytime soon.

 

Yes. Because if he had one go to post move and one counter, he would average 30 and 15.

 

I guess we can agree to disagree.

Asik:
http://www.82games.com/1213/12HOU21.HTM

Howard:
http://www.82games.com/1213/12LAL16.HTM

According to those stats, Asik is a better rebounder (grabs a higher percentage of available offensive and defensive rebounds), and Dwight gets more blocks (just under twice as many blocks per 48min or per shot as Asik).

Looking at the on court vs. off-court numbers, both are associated with a 1.7% decrease in effective FG% allowed. Dwight being on the floor actually causes a drop in offensive and total rebounding and not much change for defensive rebounding for the Lakers vs times he's not on the floor. Asik being on the floor increases all of these numbers for the Rockets. So Dwight's presence has decreased the Lakers' rebounding numbers.

Both are associated with an increase in defensive efficiency for their teams (with Asik on the floor, the rockets allow 6.5 fewer points per 100 possessions, with Howard on the floor, the Lakers allow 5.1 fewer points per 100), while Asik's presence actually causes a slight increase in offensive efficiency for the Rockets (go figure). Howard actually has a slightly negative effect on the Lakers' offensive efficiency.

For comparison's sake, freshly minted DPOY Marc Gasol is associated with the same increase in defensive efficiency as Asik (6.5 fewer points per 100 possessions) for the Grizzlies, and sore loser runner up Lebron James presides over an increase of 3.6 in defensive efficiency for the Heat.

Of course this is a shallow analysis and stats don't tell the whole story, but overall, you could easily read these to say that Asik has more of a defensive impact on the Rockets than Howard does on the Lakers.

I'm not arguing in any way that Asik is a better overall player than Howard. Just that Howard's contributions to the Lakers defense aren't significantly better than Asik's are to the Rockets.

I would think that a player that would be "worth a max contract for defense alone" would have a more demonstrably positive effect on their team's defensive numbers than Asik, and Howard simply does not. Or maybe you think Asik is also worth a max contract for his defense alone?

I think Howard is a guy who gets his Point/rebound/block numbers, but does so without regard for (and sometimes to the detriment of) his team's overall success. Meaning he's not really concerned with team defense, and so he does not necessarily make his team a better defensive team overall.

I'd rather have a "team player" like Asik that is pretty damn good in his own right, fits in with teammates better, and costs the team much less (in both salary and in the ability to go get other players).

 

Doggone it. Why did you have to go post that?

 

That's just cruel

 

wow almost forgot how good the big fella was. Honestly I think houston is spoiled with a history of good post players and dwight will never be as good as them, but hes the best option at the 5 in the nba so we have to atleast try to get him and hope he gets 75% to the level of yao or 50% of hakeem

 

They should have taught Dwight how to shoot in Orlando. His shot is too low, he needs a high release. It's too late to learn a new form now.

 

Interesting how Barkley said he could learn from McHale, when McHale cannot freelance in the off-season like the other two teachers he mentioned -- Hakeem and Kareem.

 

this aint news.... Dwight isn't a very intelligent player in terms of BBIQ

 

does your "analytics" take into the fact that Dwight plays next to another dominant big in Pau Gasol. Im sure if you put Dwight on the Rockets and got rid of Asik his numbers would skyrocket.

 

Dwight will never be Shaq, Hakeem, or Tim Duncan. Dwight's strength is being able to attract weakside help, or double teams. Doing that gives you open shooters which would be HUGE for the Rockets. That's how Orlando managed to be so good, he's just a big body that distracts and disrupts.

 

I always thought during that time that Dwight was still learning the game and was just getting schooled by a veteran. He would still get schooled by Yao if he were still playing, Dwight's game hasn't changed much since.

 

He had a go to move, but he was unable to use it this year because of physical limitations.

 

He leads the league in invisible blocks (which is one of the few stats that Morey has mentioned publicly from his not in the public domain list). It's where shots just aren't taken at all. To say he just gets his numbers, so fundamentally misunderstands his impact it's laughable.

 

If we play our style run and gun then howard is perfect...

however if we become slow half court then... asik is best spend the rest of the money on scoring PF