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If LeBron James is so great, why does he have to change teams and stack the deck with superstars

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Houston112, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. ryano2009

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    The thing that pisses me off the most is when the media debates who is the goat and how sometimes some people think he surpassed mj and they completely dismiss kobe from the conversation, kobe is still ahead of LeBron and his playoff record is actually better than LeBron not to mention kobe stayed with the Lakers his entire career and never changed teams when the Lakers sucked.
     
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    I'll admit Lebron tried to do it all in his first stint in Cleveland, but that's baked in too much by the media.

    I also think Kobe has been the more historic player. Lebron might have the skills and physical build of the ultimate ideal player, but there's something missing or inconsistent.

    If he has more ships like when he ripped one away from the Warriors hands, he'll definitely be in discussions with MJ.
     
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    2 of most hated players in NBA, LeBron and Harden. Half this topic again filled with little insecure people who hate their lives so they come in to bash Lebron. and when they're done, they prolly go on next site do bash him (or Harden for that matter) some more. Because they always find some brainless homies to tag along. Rational people can try all they want to tell them whats what , but when brain dead are rolling, nothing will stop them.

    So let me get this straight, when GM's trade players with no loyalty and do whateva it takes its ok, when that results in them winning championships they're amazing, they're worth all the glory, regardless of how and what they did. But if someone like Lebron has terrible supporting cast, puts numerous of years in team that is terrible sans him and eventually leaves, how dare he? How dare he for wanting more. How dare he for winning somewhere else.
    So if he stayed and never won championship he'd be a loser, if he left and won and came back and won he is still a loser, because he needs always more, because this and that. grow the **** and get a hobby.
     
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    Ikr, demanding a trade, playing with top 10 player of all time, raping a girl, getting stacked team nearly all the time (gasol,bynum,odom), dude literally done eveything on his own.
     
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    People forget how Kobe 'forced his way' out of Charlottle
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    How he threatened to leave the Lakers

    Also his GM was Jerry West for a while If I recall

    Rocket River
     
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  6. Rocket River

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    LeBron is in year 15
    He ain't got time for people to develope

    Rocket River
     
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  7. ryano2009

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    Well my point is why LeBron is always put ahead of kobe
     
  8. ryano2009

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    Very insightful points, will definitely read again.
     
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    because kobe only has 1 mvp and 2 finals mvps while lebron has 4 mvps and 3 finals mvps
     
  10. ryano2009

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    Kobe has 5 chips LeBron has 3, and we all know how it's mind boggling that kobe has 1 mvp when the guy Should've at least won 2 more
     
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    one of those chips was as a role player and 3 of those came when he wasn't even the best player on his team.
     
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    Lebron beat the best team in the history of the league in the Warriors. He's a top five player in NBA history, period. All the whining about Lebron is just embarrasing.
     
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    I understand, but would LeBron won that chip if it wasn't for Allen's shot, would he won his third if it wasn't for kyrie's shot and greens suspension
     
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    If Hakeem is great why did he have to team up with NBA great Clyde Drexler?

    If Kobe is great why did he have to team up with NBA great Pau?

    It’s almost as if teams are built around the notion that the best teams, not player, wins the championship.
     
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    While true, Kobe was on the verge of joining the Bulls when the Lakers, as you put it, sucked. Right up until Jerry West gifted Pau Gasol to them.

    The Bulls were being idiots by refusing to add Luol Deng to the deal. Stupid.
     
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    no.

    just like kobe would have only 1 finals mvp if it wasn't for artest in game 7.

    it's called supporting cast stepping up in big moments.

    jordan, hakeem, bird, etc. all had key players make big shots in big moments.

    harden is going to need tht from his supporting cast if the rockets want to win a championship this year.
     
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    You must be crazy if you think LeBron is a hated player, go watch the sports news channels espn, nba tv and all other social media outlets praising on daily basis, don't get me wrong the guy imo is the perfect role model of the NBA, all of his years in the league never been in trouble, married and has kids and seems like good father but come on bruh the dude is far from being hated.
     
  18. Houston112

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    Larry bird is better too me
     
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    Harden plays in the West, 41-41 would be good enough for 6th in the east most of the years LeBron played back then
     
  20. Houston112

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    Hahaha LeBron HATED that's a good one
     
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