If LeBron James is so great, why does he have to change teams and stack the deck with superstars

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2 teams
8 Finals
79 different players (or thereabout)...

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LeBron James(MIA): 65.3 WS | 33.5 VORP
LeBron James(CLE): 50.8 WS | 29.8 VORP
Dwyane Wade(MIA): 35.6 WS | 14.5 VORP
Kyrie Irving: 24.3 WS | 8.1 VORP
Kevin Love: 29.9 WS | 7.9 VORP
Chris Bosh: 34.2 WS | 6.3 VORP
Mario Chalmers: 17.2 WS | 5.7 VORP
Tristan Thompson: 25.3 WS | 4.7 VORP
J.R. Smith: 11.5 WS | 4.2 VORP
Shane Battier: 10.1 WS | 4.2 VORP
Ray Allen: 9.4 WS | 2.2 VORP
Joel Anthony: 7.9 WS | 2.2 VORP
Chris Andersen(MIA): 8.7 WS | 1.8 VORP
Iman Shumpert: 4.9 WS | 1.4 VORP
James Jones(MIA): 7.3 WS | 1.3 VORP
Kyle Korver: 5.4 WS | 1.3 VORP
Mike Miller(MIA): 5.9 WS | 1.2 VORP
Timofey Mozgov: 7.5 WS | 1.0 VORP
Channing Frye: 6.3 WS | 0.9 VORP
Larry Nance: 2.1 WS | 0.6 VORP
Erick Dampier: 1.9 WS| 0.5 VORP
Anderson Varejao: 2.5 WS | 0.5 VORP
Richard Jefferson: 4.8 WS | 0.3 VORP
James Jones(CLE): 3.5 WS | 0.3 VORP
Rashard Lewis: 2.9 WS | 0.3 VORP
Eddie House: 2.2 WS | 0.2 VORP
Shawn Marion: 1.7 WS | 0.2 VORP
Dwyane Wade(CLE): 1.3 WS | 0.2 VORP
George Hill: 1.1 WS | 0.2 VORP
Mike Bibby: 1.0 WS | 0.2 VORP
Ronny Turiaf: 0.7 WS | 0.2 VORP
Jeff Green: 3.9 WS | 0.1 VORP
Zydrunas Ilgauskas: 2.9 WS | 0.1 VORP
Jae Crowder: 1.7 WS | 0.1 VORP
Ante Zizic: 1.0 WS | 0.1 VORP
Toney Douglas: 0.7 WS | 0.1 VORP
Edy Tavares: 0.1 WS | 0.1 VORP
Jose Calderon: 1.8 WS | 0.0 VORP
Jamaal Magloire: 0.6 WS | 0.0 VORP
DeAndre Liggins(CLE): 0.4 WS | 0.0 VORP
Sasha Kaun: 0.2 WS | 0.0 VORP
Chris Andersen(CLE): 0.2 WS | 0.0 VORP
Justin Hamilton: 0.1 WS | 0.0 VORP
Dahntay Jones: 0.1 WS | 0.0 VORP
Mickell Gladness: 0.0 WS | 0.0 VORP
DeAndre Liggins(MIA): 0.0 WS | 0.0 VORP
Will Cherry: 0.0 WS | 0.0 VORP
Alex Kirk: 0.0 WS | 0.0 VORP
Larry Sanders: 0.0 WS | 0.0 VORP
Andrew Bogut: 0.0 WS | 0.0 VORP
Okaro White: 0.0 WS | 0.0 VORP
Matthew Dellavedova: 5.7 WS | -0.1 VORP
Derrick Williams: 0.8 WS | -0.1 VORP
Rodney Hood: 0.8 WS | -0.1 VORP
Greg Oden: 0.5 WS | -0.1 VORP
Roger Mason: 0.3 WS | -0.1 VORP
Jerry Stackhouse: 0.0 WS | -0.1 VORP
Josh Harrellson: 0.0 WS | -0.1 VORP
Lou Amundson: 0.0 WS | -0.1 VORP
Brendan Haywood: 0.0 WS | -0.1 VORP
Jarvis Varnado: -0.1 WS | -0.1 VORP
A.J. Price: -0.1 WS | -0.1 VORP
London Perrantes: -0.1 WS | -0.1 VORP
Carlos Arroyo: 1.6 WS | -0.2 VORP
Mo Williams: 1.1 WS | -0.2 VORP
Jordan Clarkson: 1.0 WS | -0.2 VORP
Cedi Osman: 0.9 WS | -0.2 VORP
Dexter Pittman: 0.6 WS | -0.2 VORP
Dion Waiters: 0.5 WS | -0.2 VORP
Mike Miller(CLE): 0.4 WS | -0.2 VORP
Mike Dunleavy: 0.3 WS | -0.2 VORP
Terrel Harris: 0.0 WS | -0.2 VORP
Eddy Curry: -0.1 WS | -0.2 VORP
Kendrick Perkins: -0.2 WS | -0.2 VORP
John Holland: -0.2 WS | -0.2 VORP
Michael Beasley: 1.6 WS | -0.3 VORP
Deron Williams: 0.6 WS | -0.3 VORP
Joe Harris: 0.2 WS | -0.3 VORP
Jared Cunningham: 0.1 WS | -0.3 VORP
Kay Felder: 0.1 WS | -0.4 VORP
Derrick Rose: -0.1 WS | -0.4 VORP
Isaiah Thomas: -0.1 WS | -0.4 VORP
Jordan McRae: 0.4 WS | -0.5 VORP
Juwan Howard: 0.7 WS | -0.7 VORP
Udonis Haslem: 8.8 WS | -1.2 VORP
Norris Cole: 1.8 WS | -2.8 VORP

 

Shane Battier and Mike Miller and Juwan Howard
they have played with much worst superstar or stars before

 

Because NBA-top is heavily stacked. LeBron carries scrubs-wagon right now and still makes finals

 

Stop it. Lebron is great and is on another tier than Curry and Harden.

 

I don't know any. It's a nice accomplished. But to put it in context, the east has been between mediocre & pathetic for years now. If the Rockets played in the east we'd be in finals every year too. Any of the top 5 teams in the west could beat ANYBODY in the east. I don't see the greatness in coming out the east

 

Apples and oranges. I’m not talking about the accomplishment of the Cavs team. I’m talking about the accomplishment of an individual player having to carry a mediocre supporting cast.

Yes, many West teams would come out of the East. But I don’t think any other player in either conference would be able to take this Cavs team to the Finals.

 

This Cavs team? They have 2 superstars & a solid supporting cast lol. Rodney Hood, Jeff Green, Kyle Kover, Jordan Clarkson & George Hill are all solid NBA players

 

What's your point? I don't disagree with this

 

You're entitled to your opinion, but Kevin Love is not a superstar. And if the supporting cast is so good, LeBron shouldn't have to work so hard (nor play all 48) just for his team to be competitive in the playoffs.

 

You guys are crazy. James is on another level, everyone else is competing for the MVP of the youth league.

As for Durant and Curry, when they decided to play together, they basically said that the heck with the individual stats, they just want to win. Everyone knows there is no way for either of them to win MVP playing together.

 

We won't know if Harden could have dragged a less talented Eastern Conference team to the Finals 8 times.

 

So what? Its not Lebron's fault the East was weak.

Look, which HOF team did Jordan beat? Is it his fault his GM was so good while the rest of the NBA GMs were so bad?

 

I think people actually forget that Michael Jordan, the so called greatest ever, couldn't even get past the first round of the playoffs until he got talent around him.

 

It is weak but it is not like it's the Gleague or any European league as many would ridicule it to be. It's still NBA level competition.

 

What are you talking about clearly Jordan just played 6 seasons and won a ring each year he played. 6-6 in the Finals, baby!

 

Don't bother confusing them with facts.....the mainstream media have their minds made up. Brainwash the others.

It sells and makes them money.

 

The difference between Jordan and Lebron is, Jordan stayed with 1 team and waited to be surrounded which makes his success more spectacular, Lebron had to team up with 2 other top 10 players at the time on another team to find success. Then he switched back to Cleveland when he felt the heat couldn't succeed and Cleveland was good enough to compete. He's nothing but a sore loser

Durant is the same, joined a 73 win team and took the easy road to success, but who could blame him, people nowadays don't want to work hard for success, they want it handed to them on a silver platter.

 

Kevin Love is definitely a superstar. He's just sacrificed his game to be a role player, similar to Bosh. You need to check Loves stats before Cleveland

 

Love was a star and put up ridiculous numbers but I think his decline is more than just becoming a role player - that no doubt is a part of it though.