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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shandon Anversen, Jul 23, 2001.

  1. Shandon Anversen

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    exactly my concern. it's nothing personal against mjax. i just wonder if he's really what we need.
     
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    Marc Jackson

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    now what happens?????

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  3. NJRocket

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    you lost me there Mateo


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  4. Shandon Anversen

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    i didn't hear it, i read it. now what?

    nanny nanny boo boo!
     
  5. haven

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    Verse: you nailed the part about him being a power forward.

    He doesn't block shots. he's 6'10. He's not extremely athletic. He doesn't have a post game. he shoots jumpers facing the basket. His defense is mediocre. That's a PF. He's played C because his shot isn't that great and he's a bit slow for a PF, and a little heavy (270lbs). Besides, the bar for centers has been sliding over the past few years.

    But Marc Jackson isn't someone that's going to put you over the top. And he isn't someone who's that "last piece." I think Houston should be pursuing raef lafrentz with everything they have, personally. Perhaps Dan Issel wants Shandon Anderson? [​IMG]

    Jackson had half a good year for a really crappy team... and he didn't even play that well. Oh, and his fg% wasn't that great, either.

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  6. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

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    I don't care if it's Marc Jackson or Pig Miller. The Rockets are in dire need of a rebounder, though drafting Griffin definitely helped, that's not enough. Whether it be a center who can start, or a backup PF that can share the spot with MT, next season would totally hinge on that.

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  7. NJRocket

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    Lets all just face the facts...

    1) IMO, there is NO ONE in the league that can beat the lakers in a 7 game series as of this moment. For G-d sakes, they just signed Samaki Walker (an improvement on Horace Grant) and Mitch "Sure I'll forfeit a few million for a ring" Richmond.

    2) Other than C Web, there is no one that can push the Rockets to the next level needed to win the west.

    3) Caproom (cash) is king again so lets see who is avalable next year instead of signing marginal players to fill a roster. Maybe we get a shot at Raef next year and don't blow it because of loyalty.

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    Since everyone seems to be convinced that Dream will be departing the Rockets sometime this offseason, let me pose this question:

    Who will rebound for the Rockets??

    Cato?? [​IMG] Not likely. Even when he's healthy, he doesn't rebound worth a damn. I remember games in the 99-00 season where I'd get excited when Cato finally got a rebound in the 3rd quarter.

    Taylor is a mediocre rebounder, and definitely not a 'banger'.

    Griffin could possibly rebound for us if he were to get 35 minutes per game, but he'll be unlikely to get more than 20-25 for some time.

    Last season we relied too much on our guards to rebound, and opposing teams are going to be more likely to focus on boxing them out this season; therefore I doubt Francis will be able to grab 7 rebounds per game like he did last season. Those rebounding #'s for a 6'3" point guard are incredible.

    The point is, Marc Jackson would be a useful commodity for us, and could possibly provide immense value for the Rockets if we lose Dream. The reason being is as follows:

    In 48 games played (35 of which he started), Jackson averaged the following:

    46.7 FG%
    80.2 FT% [​IMG]
    29.4 min/game
    13.2 points/game
    7.5 rebounds/game (2.5 offensive & 5.0 defensive)

    7.5 rebounds in 30 minutes is very impressive. If he gets about 35 minutes per game on average, he could definitely be a 15/10 player who gets 3-4 offensive boards per game. Considering how many close games the Rockets are involved in, a guy who gets few extra rebounds and tip-ins is exactly what the Rockets need. Plus the guy can flat out shoot free throws at 80%, how impotant is that late in games?

    To address some of his knocks:

    His blocks were not impressive at .5 per game, and he averaged about 1 steal per game, which is decent. However, I've heard some knocks about his lack of a post game, and that he's a 'mediocre' shooter with a bad FG%. If he truly is a bad shooter who mainly takes jump shots, then his 47% FG percentage is pretty darn good, considering he really didn't have many guys on his team to 'create' for him. His defense can't be any worse than Cato's, and apparently his work ethic is damn good, because he went from a 2nd round pick in '97 (I think) playing in Europe, to a near Rookie of the Year in '01. Last season was his first year of professional NBA basketball, so his room for growth should be tremendous if he is to stay healthy. Also, his abilities to shoot from the outside will be useful in games where we play Shaq and other big lugs who like to camp out in the paint.

    Anyway, some more downsides are the possible 'Ike Austin' risk factors, where he is just a one year wonder who doesn't pan out, or that we sign him to a big contract and he fizzles like Cato has done so far. However, if we lose Dream, it might be worth taking a risk, as he's probably one of the top 10-15 'centers' in the league, or at the very least has the potential to.

    On a side note: Verse, could you please not refer to Kelvin Cato as 'Kathy Cato' ? [​IMG] First off, I think the 'proper' feminine name for him is "Kelly". Also, my girlfriend's name is Kathy, so I don't want to accidentally picture an underachieving 7 foot center in my mind whenever we're fooling around [​IMG].

    Sorry about the long post, but I still think Jackson is a commodity.
     
  9. Da Man

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    I'm with haven. I have yet to see a post game from Marc Jackson. He didn't have one in college. I still haven't seen one in the pros. I think paying him 5-7 million is too much. At least when Ike Austin got his fat contract, he proved it over a course of 2 years, spot starting and backing up Zo on a playoff team. This guy proved it for the Warriors for 3 months on an atrocious team. I'll pass.

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    Although I still don't want M Jax...i still enjoyed your post Red

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    I'm curious, I've only seen Marc Jackson played once, what would his game be compared to? He sounds like Jahidi White with better scoring and less shotblocking.

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    He is also a little less agressive on the boards than Jahidi

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    The funny thing is Jahidi played on a team that was even CRAPPIER than the Warriors. So don't say Jahidi is so great, when you say Jackson isn't good because he was on a crappy team.

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  14. NJRocket

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    Who said anything about Jahidi being great? Or even good for that matter? Did i miss something?

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    Probably the most obvious difference to most of us is that Francis has never posterized MJax [​IMG]

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  16. NYKRule

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    I've read Jahidi White threads before. Hopefully I won't see the same garbage about Jahidi in this post.

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