I will shut down the government. I will take that mantle

This will be a great comfort to those unable to pay their mortgage.

 

No they picked the idiotic toddler!

 

Instead of the other one.

 

I guess we'll find out what Democrats want more, open borders or open government.

 

This reminds me of that King Solomon and the baby judgement bible fable a little bit.

Soon enough liberals will buckle under the pressure from this exact same sentiment that you've expressed. Trump doesn't care about people (unless someone furloughed dies from hunger and it is shown on TV). Hopefully, the dems will buckle only after the last reasonable batch of people in the Trump's base will realize that deep down Trump is a psycho and will vote him out of office when the time comes.

Imagine the ads showing Trump shouting "I will take the mantle for a shutdown" and then pointing out that the president is responsible for the longest shut down in history that has caused AMERICAN people suffering and the nation significant economic losses over a made up crisis.

 

I'm sorry this made me laugh a little. I think you are being optimistic that either side of that wink is really capable for such mind gymnastics. Wall is an emotional statement first and foremost. Legal loopholes are for the swamp and its bureaucrats (and stephen miller who tried to close a loophole by separating families)

ps. I realize that you said "IF"

 

More people missing paychecks (including Coast Guard and FBI), more people needing to use public assistance, more pressure on pressure as public approvals continue to drop. Maybe a glimmer of hope...

 

I may be wrong but it seems to me thst trumps fans respond to his projection of bottomless confidence in himself and lack of equivocation or ambiguity.

As long as he looks into the camera with those pale rings around his squinty eyes and the stern duckface like hes about to tell the country that its fired i believe his followers will want to buy whatever he's selling.

The appearance of confidence and control, and a black and white mastery of what is going on even when the opposite is true is my best understanding of what his appeal is and I've thought a lot about what his appeal might be.

Again, maybe I'm just really wrong.

Also, I'm pretty sure that whatever he does, his malignant narcissism will let him generate a narrative that explains why he did exactly the right thing and nobody else would have been a large enough genius to have pulled it off. I may be wrong on the former, but I'm pretty sure on the latter.

 

Shameful that this has happened...

 

Wait is this real? Mitch is really allowing a vote on a bill to re-open without wall funding? I’d be pleasantly surprised after he repeatedly said that would never happen.

 

Yep...either one would need 60 votes though and it's unlikely either one gets there.

 

Yeah and that’s depressing. Basically the same bill that the Senate easily passed in December just days before the shutdown, but now Republicans won’t support it.

 

And, then, that glimmer start to fizzle out...

 

Meanwhile the turtle really doesn't want show votes or votes of conscious... he only wants bills that trump will sign. So much for one of theree branches of government and that wacky idea of separate but equal.

 

One of the Other Idiot Son's wives putting on her Marie Antoinette...



FEDERAL EMPLOYEES GOING THROUGH ‘A LITTLE BIT OF PAIN’ BUT BORDER WALL IS ‘BIGGER THAN’ THEM SAYS LARA TRUMP
https://www.newsweek.com/shutdown-lara-trump-federal-workers-furloughed-border-wall-1300775

 

Here is a video explaining some of the context of how Trump thinks about negotiating a deal (in bad faith) and of how much trouble Trump has with powerful women wrt business deals.