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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Samiam1234, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. brewer's goat

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    Harden is elite but not the best playmaker. CP3 is arguably the best playmaker. So there is a pecking order at play here. And yes turnovers do matter, as not making dumb mistakes matter.
     
  2. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    so you based your assumptions on 1 30 point blowout and not the season as whole?

    did CP3 join the rockets to play with an elite scorer or and elite scorer and playmaker?

    CP3 would not have joined the rockets if morey and mda told him that harden will be deferring to him LOL

    he doesn't want to play with reddick but with harden
     
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    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    LOL genius idea! get this to MDA and Morey quick!
     
  4. brewer's goat

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    Have you seen OKC? playing "your turn my turn" doesn't work. There should always be a pecking order, which makes the game much easier for everyone.
     
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    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    you're comparing WB to Harden? LOL

    OKC is not working

    HOU is working

    both harden and cp3 need to be playmakers

    a "deferring" durable harden at his prime is an opponents dream and a 32 year-old injury-prone and 27 or less minutes CP3's nightmare
     
  6. brewer's goat

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    yes, that doesn't mean it always have to be 50:50. Also, deferring doesn't mean 0:100. Hate to say it, but you lack nuanced thinking, or just not very bright.
     
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    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    where did I ever say 50:50???

    its up to Morey, MDA, CP3, and Harden

    their bball IQ are all the same level

    not like stupid blowout game and turnover whiners like you

    smart: seasons and wins
    dumb: blowout games and turnovers
     
  8. brewer's goat

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    Curry is a historically great scorer and shooter. Guess what happened in the Finals last year? Durant took over and became the primary scorer on that team, with Curry kind of accepting the role as a 2nd option. It didn't matter after all because they won the championship and nobody's ego got hurt.

    On this team, Harden should be the primary scorer and CP3 the primary playmaker. I don't know why this is so hard for some people to accept, unless you don't care about the team and only care about Harden's individual numbers.
     
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    Says the clown who opened the thread with an alternate account and proceeds to troll all throughout to take out his frustrations on Harden.Get a life
     
  10. vlaurelio

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    me same with MDA, Morey, Harden, and CP3 cares about wins

    not turnovers like dumb people like you
     
  11. brewer's goat

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    winning games is based on each player knowing their primary roles, and not doing this "your turn my turn" BS. If Curry can defer to Durant on scoring duties, there is no reason why Harden can't defer to CP3 on playmaking duties.
     
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    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    aren't they sharing that already and we're winning 100% when they're playing?

    what issue are you trying to fix? we should be blowing out teams by 50 pts and lessen harden's turnovers?
     
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    My original complaint was based on a single game as you mentioned, so it's not a huge problem. You're making it a bigger issue by keep insisting there should be no pecking order, when every great team has defined roles for every player. My issue is that Harden and CP3 can't play "your turn my turn" kind of basketball when they're both sharing the court, and someone should be more focused on scoring and the other on playmaking. It's pretty clear to me who that player should be for each category.
     
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    so you have no complaints with the rest of the games? so they just do what they did for those games

    stop whining *****!

    you act like you're fixing a problem or something LOL
     
  15. brewer's goat

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    lmao, did your feelings get hurt because Harden is not best at everything?
     
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    so for your its about Harden

    must be miserable for you that the rockets are 1st in the west led by Harden on top of the MVP ladder

    is brewer still in the league?
     
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    No, it's about the Rockets and not only about Harden. For you, it's only about Harden and not the Rockets. That's the difference.
     
  18. vlaurelio

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    for me its about the rockets 1st then the most important to the rockets success

    who would have single handedly carried the rockets to more than 55 wins last season?

    why did Cp3 join the rockets?

    why are the rockets 1st in the west this season?
     
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    You're just a HOF, admit it. Then answer my question: If CP3 wins MVP over Harden this year, would you care about that at all?
     
  20. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    Harden is the only play that can single handedly carried the rockets to more than 55 wins last season

    Cp3 joined the rockets because of Harden

    the rockets 1st in the west this season mainly because of Harden

    I don't care about that what ever makes the Rockets closest to the championship

    we need those two to play as elite playmakers if we want to win it all

    last thing we need is a neutered Harden or an injured or overworked CP3
     

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