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I guess it is OPEN SEASON to kill black men in America...no one seems to care.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mr.Scarface, Dec 3, 2014.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Dude wasn't choked to death. Stupid ass Americans think you can choke someone in 45 seconds is the first problem discussing this
     
  2. pgabriel

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    Bro cops don't debate ish. They wanted the dude to move. If you think they should negotiate you out your damn mind
     
  3. biff17

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    Cops negotiate all the time.

    And choke holds are still banned.

    I know you are just trolling so I am done with you.
     
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  4. JayGoogle

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    So if a cop tells you to do something then you do it or he puts you in a choke hold?

    Are you saying that the cop could not have handled this better? He could not have done anything differently?
     
  5. pgabriel

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    They debate when they tell you to move in the midst of committing a crime?
     
  6. pgabriel

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    They told the dude to movd

    He gives a speech

    They tried to cuff him

    He starts waving his arms defensively
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    And? He literally just raises his arms once too before the hold is applied. This doesn't change my question. You are saying that they could not have handled this any better?
     
  8. pgabriel

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    They dont have time to listen to him talk about nothing
     
  9. pgabriel

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    @JayGoogle

    They hadca history. There is nothing to be said. The cop knew what Garner was doing
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    The question still remains.

    Do you think the officer could/should have handled this differently?

    You're not answering this question, you're just making excuses for very poor decision making. That's all you are doing. Why?
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    No
    They told him to move. He didn't. That's the next step

    Standard procedure
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    Chokeholds are not standard procedure lol.
     
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  13. pgabriel

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    That's not why he died. Others argue that it was the procedure he was taught
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    If it is what he was taught then it was still wrong, as mentioned already it is against NYPD regulation, which means he should have done something else. Which, I think you know which is why you avoided the question, but you won't come out and say the officer was wrong and should have handled the situation differently because you likely think it is a liberal position or something.
     
  15. pgabriel

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    When i say it was what he was taught it wasn't a choke hold

    Listen carefully. I don't have any issue with how he handled it.

    He has more important things to worry about than arguing with Garner when Garner should have just moved

    Dont assume what i think when im telling you exactly what i think
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    That's amazing to me that you don't think he could have done anything differently, that the only option, with several other officers arround him against an unarmed man, was to put him in a choke hold. It was a choke hold. When you have MMA people telling you that's a choke hold, then it's a choke hold. It has already been confirmed by the NYPD that it was banned dude. Give it a rest. This is why I feel like you are being contradictory just because you feel like you must, that's how partisan this issue has been.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/nyregion/eric-garner-death-daniel-pantaleo-trial-chokehold.html
    "Internal affairs investigators who reviewed Eric Garner’s death determined that the officer who wrestled him to the ground in 2014 used a forbidden chokehold on him, a police supervisor testified on Monday during the officer’s disciplinary trial at Police Headquarters."

    You are the only one lying about it here, it was a choke hold, poorly executed sure, but a chokehold. Which means he should have done something else. Period.

    He has more important things to worry about? What? Isn't he on the clock so shouldn't his first priority be to do his job to the best of his ability? Which, he simply didn't do since the state had to settle in court for millions because of his actions?
     
  17. pgabriel

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    Bro yall are crazy. The dude was a criminal. The cop knew it. It wasn't a negotiable moment

    He wasnt selling cars. He telling a career criminal to move from a spot he had already been arrested

    Get off that liberal ****. The technique maybe questionable but not moving his ass
     
  18. JayGoogle

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    Him being a criminal is irrelevant here.

    The officer performed a banned technique, which means he shouldn't have done what he did and should have better done his job. Period. End of story.

    BTW, the man was selling cigarettes, not cocaine.
     
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    Involuntary manslaughter is still negligence.

    I respect law enforcement. I really do. But we've pretty much issued a license for kill to the lowest common denominator, which is surprising given all the legal hand wringing for capital punishment.

    I guess it's because we have state sanctioned murder in the form of capital punishment that the American people are so blasé to police brutality.

    Who said Judge Dredd was science fiction?
     
  20. pgabriel

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    What he was doing isn't the point other than when you're doing something illegal you don't have an argument

    Cops dont have time to hear that ****. It isn't the courtroom. He is on a beat. He has other stuff to worry about
     

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