How soon can a team trade a max free agent signing without losing credibility?

It matters for smaller markets more so than the bigger ones.

 

The only "true" max player there is Bosh.

Chandler might be borderline because of the defensive impact he brings.

But everybody knows Rudy Gay, Eric Gordon, Larry Sanders (with the character problems) are not really worth the max. Amare was done because of injuries so I doubt anybody would hold that against you.

 

Nene wasn't exactly a max guy, but he was traded soon after the signing for a headcase in JaVale McGee, and he's still universally lauded by the press (I'm up and down on the guy) and fellow execs.

 

Two things. Most guys play for the money. If you offer someone a max deal they will take it. It does not matter if you just traded a guy who was signed to the max.

Next, free agents want to play for a winner. The Rockets are a prefect example. They have traded away lots of players. But once they had a bright future Dwight wanted to come here.

If Miami trades away Bosh, guys will want to go there because LeBron and Wade still make them a championship caliber team.

The exception is older players who already have their money and want a championship.

TL;DR Money then winning are what players want.

 

I guess it depends on the free agent.

IMO, the Knicks case really doesn't apply here. He was a big part of the reason why Melo and Chandler wanted to come to NY in the first place and his chronic injuries didn't start until they came to NY. Its unfortunate for NY that this happened, but they wouldn't be relevant now if it wasn't for Amare being the first free agent to take a gamble on NY.

With the Rockets, in their case, if they were to trade Howard right now, I think it would harp negatively on their credibility even if it was the right move. There are too many people inside the NBA circle that would never be able to trust Morey and Les Alexander again. The only free agents signing with Houston would be the ones who just wanted to get paid and didn't care where they played ALA Al Jefferson.

I'm assuming that Dwight with the Rockets is the reason why this thought crossed your mind.... maybe I'm wrong but that seems to be an obvious case right now people are thinking about.

I think the same situation would happen with Bosh if Miami traded him in his first year or two in Miami. Lebron and Wade's inner circle of business folks would likely cause a stir over this, and it wouldn't have boded well for even Pat Riley & Arison. However if they wouldn't have won two championships and been to the finals 3 years in a row, I would think that Lebron's people would be more than fine with the move.

Larry Sanders and Eric Gordon are two players I could easily see being traded even though they were re-signed to large deals. They aren't going to hold the pull among the league that a Lebron, or Howard will, and there are justifiable reasons for their teams to do so. Lets be honest as well... at this point in their careers, Gordon, and Sanders are probably more than willing to play for any team in the league that pays them that kind of money than they are to just play for a winner with their friends.

Different situations and different players have different outcomes. Long story short, I wouldn't trade Dwight anytime soon if I was Morey.

 

The difficulty in trading Bosh more than anything is that his contract would drastically reduce the yield. He can decide he wants out after this season, after next season, or run it through the season after that. As for Howard, people are just being ridiculous, the team has lost a cpl games through bad luck, hasn't even really looked any good, played through almost as many injuries as illness as we had last season and is still 8-4.

 

LOL @ basketballhollic discussing credibility...

 

Undetermined and unknowable because it has never happened before. But Howard and Harden are more than max level players. They are healthy franchise level talents and no team ever lets those players go.

 

That's what Jason Collins said...

 

What the OP really wanted to ask is: Shouldn't we trade Howard as soon as we can?

 

LOL, but then when you point out the obvious he tells you to not get "off topic"

 

Think you are thinking of the wrong person.
If its the whole eye scam thing then that is BasketballMind or something like that.

 

rofl. this thread.

 

LOL man you sure love that guy, every thread you post there's usually a remark regarding him.