How much will Yao get since Oden 8.8M qualifying offer?

And just wanted to add this to the overall conversation here...yao has said if he comes back he'll only play for Houston...now i dont expect that to keep other teams from submitting an offer, but some may decide Yao isn't worth the time when they could be going after other players, so they may not drive up his value. Or maybe that will make them submit their highest offer right away, who knows, but one should consider how that will affect his free agency.

 

With all due respect, are you seriously comparing the two based on games played?

"Yao is clearly a better player and more durable than Greg Oden."

Honestly, I could care less how many games Oden has played, or what he has averaged compared to Yao when he played. What I'm looking at is the fact that Yao basically hasn't played for two years. Two years. Yao is the living, breathing definition of a crap shoot. We have no idea, whatsoever, if he'll ever play again. If he ever can, fantastic, and I hope it's with the Rockets, but pulling up career numbers comparing him and Oden in order to determine a possible contract for the big guy is, excuse me, nuts.

 

Yao has basically said that he will not play for any team other than the Rockets.

Personally I don't think we'll see him play in the NBA again.

 

You're missing the point. Yao is at the end of his road when it comes to treatment. That's why he said he'll retire if it happens again. Oden could probably get injured 2 more times and still be able to keep trying. That drives up the value of Oden and drives down the value of Yao. It doesn't mean oden is better or will be, but that's just how the NBA works at times. Potential to play and/or play great is a big factor.

 

I would pay Yao 2-3 million per year, even if he never played another game. Just having him on the Roster and bench would be well worth it. Not only does Yao and his franchise bring millions back to the Rockets, he also is a good presence to have around the players. And he is 7'6, I dont see the NBA getting another one of those guys any time soon

 

its almost as if Yao has some agents working on here.

 

Your argument is pointless. Don't believe me? Watch what type of deal he gets.

 

Are you dumb or what?

Didn't you see we had already moved on without Yao in our plan? It is a matter whether we take a chance on Yao with miminal risk.

Got it?

 

If that's not how the NBA works why does the NBA keep drafting players who are NOT proven and only have potential at high positions in the draft?? Why do they keep giving player smore money that they deserve? Sure, there are exceptions, but for the most part teams want potential and a future, not temporary help that may not work out. Oden is closer to the former than Yao, but both are close to the latter.

BTW, Oden is younger and has more medical options to try out than Yao. At this point Oden's innjuries ARE NOT more serious. How can they be when he's still trying to come back, meanwhile Yao is talking retirement? Obviously Yao's injuries are becoming too much for him to even play.

And i'm not even a fan that wants Oden on this team or one that truly believes Oden will get "fixed", but if you're going to compare him to Yao, then I have to say hes got a better shot of coming back and staying. Talking about what other fans said he'll get is pointless, especially if your such a big Yao fan that you cant be flexible in your way of thinking. Could he get 10 million? Sure, will he? Probably not. Could he get the minimum? Sure, will he? Probably not. Those are his max and min limits and the reality will probably be somewhere in the middle.

 

Yao will at least get offered the same amount of money as Oden. There's no question. Yao brings fans to the stadium. He is an All Star when healthy. His last injury was much less severe than previous. The way the accident was not from a pounding on his feet like previous but rather a freak accident. Just before he went down he was beginning to dominate again. Every doctor has said there is no reason why he can't have a full recovery.

Expect the bidding to start equal to Oden and go up from there. Now whether the Rockets offer him that much may be a different question. But I think they will because a healthy Yao is the best player on the team and a great marketing asset as well. And we know how Morey loves assets.

 

Yao needs to retire or possibly take an incentive laden contract starting at the vet minimum.....We really DO need to move on though.

 

Yao for 2.5 Option every year? for how many years if he cant play then its reduce to Mil a year Or what ever barkley had? LLE???

 

I doubt Yao gets close to $8.8 mil or even damands it. It's been said many times that if he comes back, he'll only come back to the Rockets and will likely take a small salary, on a short contract.

This is really more similar to Shaq signing as an FA with the Celtics last year: older player with questionable health who has made his money already, whose priority is being in a situation he enjoys playing in.

 

Only problem is Grant Hill isn't over 7'5".

 

I'd be willing to allocate 6M in capspace for Yao, MLE range. Huge upside, not a crippling downside...considering wage scale around the NBA. I'd call that reasonable. That said, someone will give him 10M/ 1 yr just for the pr and buzz...

 

No way. This DOES cripple us.

And I can't see anybody offering up 10 mil. Besides he's not going anywhere ...Les paying Yao 5-6 + is my nightmare. Vet minimum with incentives or retirement makes sense but I've had a sinking feeling that Les is going to shell out some crazy multi year deal in this neighborhood...

 

I wonder if Chinese marketing money that Les rakes in is worth having Yao available to trot out for a few minutes each half???

 

strange take on Oden issues. mechanical or not the damage is done. surgeries have been performed. i don't see how you can "fix" something that has progressed so far.

same as with yao ming. once the doctors start cutting, clamping, stapleing , screwing the damage is done.

oden will make one more try and then be forced out i see