I'm thinking a Lowry-esque deal when he was resigned here. 4 years and 24 million. The guy deserves to get paid, but not overpaid.
Agree if his production takes a jump this year and his 3 % remains high he will get more. Another PG comparison is Patty Mills who got 3 years 12 million. He was a free agent but had an injury that might have dampened demand for him. OKC might go after Bev if they lose Jackson. He can back up Westbrook and then play alongside when Westbrook slides to the 2. OKC won't drop a big contract on him though. Beverley is a RFA correct?
People are really delusional here. Bev can get $8m on the open market and we are idiots if we don't pay him that. There is no better compliment in the league for Harden. The man plays excellent D, hits the open 3, doesn't turn the ball over and doesn't care if he handles the ball as long as the team wins. We're no longer in the stage of our team's development where we can be iffy about a million dollars here or there. We're going to be capped out for the forseeable future, with no easier acquisition than re-signing someone who's rights we own. Has it not occurred to everyone how common it's been in the modern NBA era for championship teams to have PG's who aspire to Beverley's exact skillset? Frankly, it must be so insulting for him to hear a $5m or $6m figure. Look at how much money NBA players are making these days. Parsons and Hayward are making damn near $15m. Avery Bradley makes $8m. Bledsoe settled for $12m. Greg Monroe turned down a $10m per season contract. If there's anything we've learned this season, it's that we have underrated defense very much. Bev is among the top defensive players in the league, and passable offensively. How much would you pay for the inverse? Where in history has that kind of lopsided view towards defense/offense been rewarded with success? Never. Lock the man up. With Canaan backing him up and Terry around for now, all we need is a PF upgrade.
I reserve the right to call Chandler Parsons greedy. He ended up getting paid more than James Harden this year. That is not good for a lockerroom's chemistry, and as Morey said it is not a championship formula to sign the Chandler Parsons of the world to those type of contracts. Bad basketball teams are the ones that give out those kinds of contracts. Chandler Parsons was absolutely greedy to seek out that deal, because it was clear the Rockets were willing to pay fair market value for him (10-12M per year).
In the summer of 2016 sure. But projecting how well Bev fits on the Rockets to other teams in the league is dicey. Bev is not a creator and generates few assists. Most teams rely on their point guards to do both.
B b but people on clutchfans are telling me Harden is an amazing passer on Chris Pauls level. I think 6 mil would be fair and he does compliment this team since Harden handles the ball the majority of the time.
Not dicey at all. By any logical assumption, he would create more assists on virtually any other team. We have a very specific situation here with James Harden. If anything is dicey, it's the unfounded assumption than he would not average more assists on literally any other team in the league, save for maybe the Lakers. He is specifically asked not to do it here. What we do know for sure is that he takes care of the ball very very well, and that DOES translate because he is not a drive n dish guy. He is never going to have those wild turnovers, but on a team where the SG does handle the ball on every possessions he will pick up more assists even if never particularly good at it. His defense, overall effort and 3pt shooting do translate too. His hard work off the court. His personality in the locker room. His attitude to practice. That's besides the main point: Bev's value does not rely solely on his ability to create shots or generate assists. He excels astronomically in several categories required of a starting non-star PG. It's not like Avery Bradley can be a creator on a good time, or an efficient significant scorer. If Bev could do the things you're asking, he'd be among the best PG's in the league. He'd be making $12m. It's based only on his existing skill set which he has demonstrated that he is worth more than the MLE in this NBA market. If we are willing to send him in a sign n trade, teams will even be willing to give him $8m as a backup. Jodie Meeks makes $7m. Just have a look at players in that salary range: http://espn.go.com/nba/salaries/_/page/3 Bev is a starter. We won't find anyone to be more effective than him at PG for less than $12-$15m. I would be very weary of the organization making him a low ball offer like the MLE, unless maybe it's starting the full MLE for max years with max raises and no buyout or team options.
I see your point and agree. What worries me, though, is there are idiot GMs out there who might offer Bev more than his market value... Or maybe just to troll us (Puban). I hope Bev gets his money from Rockets but at fair amount.
What a find by Morey to pull the Wolverine out of Russia - simply amazing. He will get paid, and he has earned it. DD
Teams are not going to pay Bev $8M hoping he will become a better creator and assist PG than anything he has demonstrated so far. Unless cap smoothing goes into effect, teams are not going to have a lot of money to throw around next summer. IMHO of course. In addition Bev is a restricted free agent. That will drive down his price. And there is a lot of talented players who will be UFAs next summer. They will be where the money goes. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11377133/nba-free-agents-2015-2016
