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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Commodore, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. askball

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    Thought the same. I wasn't aware that Otto somehow knew the location of the attack.
     
  2. Surfguy

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    It wouldn't surprise me if the Russians knew...because obviously they had her changing the location of the plot to the airport when she knew the truth. The Russians obviously want this attack to happen for some reason. She may have known and was just playing it out before she took care of the professor. It seems we are still waiting on a reveal or two here to piece it all together.
     
  3. gifford1967

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    We know the reason the Russians want the attack to happen. The female spy told Otto in the bathroom that the Russians hope a successful attack will prompt the western countries to move more aggressively against ISIS/muslim terrorists.
     
  4. dragician

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    everyone is aware about global terrorism these days. if you put that into equation in that movie, they should have said the magic word. "let's roll!'
     
  5. Rox11

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    What is the point of Carrie wearing a head cover and not covering her hair?

    So the only reason Alison killed the professor was so that the cia wouldn't get the correct answer from him?

    As far as homelands point of view on radical, i think they are very understanding in a sense. As far back as you go, every encounter a cia agent has with a radical goes something along " they did this to me or us so here is my retaliation".
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    Good Episode but it seemed very very messy.

    I also do not understand how people simply let them start shutting the gates and locking w/out a second thought. Its not so much about the "brown men" not in uniform, as it is them using padlocks. Additionally train stations are always crawling with security. And no, security would not completely abandon the train station to check up on the airport. This is terrible scripting that seems to constantly plague this show.

    I dont understand why Allison Car went though all of that. Conrad is going to hand over his gun to a suspected Russian agent? Then she is going to question Aziz only to kill him? He just witnessed Allison murder Conrad. Why bother interrogate him? To make sure she does not inadvertently send them off in the wrong goose chase? How would she really know Aziz is telling the truth in the first place? Why not escape then instead of shooting herself only to be rescued at the hospital?
     
  7. Nick

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    She'd been getting chummy with him the entire time... and he mentioned to her last episode that he really didn't buy into why he was having to follow her anyways.

    She was going to murder Conrad regardless... because its her only way to possibly escape and carry out her plan/orders feasibly. That show of force also got the professor to confess... I don't think she really knew the location, nor was she trying to find out... her likely orders were to simply kill the professor as the Russians didn't want to take a chance of somebody interrogating him and figuring out the location of the plot.

    Again, she's following orders to kill him... the location/confession she got was icing on the cake for her plan (which is simply to survive and keep her cover story intact). As far as the plot goes, sending the police on a wild goose chase to the airport ended up diverting the intel that Carrie uncovered when she found all that railroad stuff at the guy's apt.

    Also, she wasn't "rescued"... she was likely apprehended by the Russians to meet her eventual fate now that she's damaged goods.
     
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  8. dragician

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    No one is talking about the finale? :)
     
  9. R0ckets03

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    I really liked it. Kinda went the GOT route where the second to the last episode is the super intense one and the last episode is used to wrap up everything.

    Carrie should be back with the CIA, or else where is this show going? Quinn dying had to happen I guess. :(
     
  10. Surfguy

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    i kept thinking something else was going to happen.

    Was the shocker supposed to be her boss propositioned her?

    Too neat and tidy. Even the Otto conclusion was seen a mile away.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Is that confirmed? I think it's left open.
     
  12. kevC

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    Was Carrie about to pull the plug on Quinn?
     
  13. Nick

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    Pretty sure every single Homeland finale has been "neat and tidy" without anything shocking happening.

    This one actually did have the bomb thwart happen... along with the machine-gun slaughter at the border, so it actually did have some decent moments compared to season finale's past.

    Best part of the episode, IMO, was the discussion between Saul and the Russian guy... but I guess I just prefer the spy/espionage/counter-intellegence stuff over all the action/cliff-hanger stuff anyways.
     
  14. kevC

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    Also, did Saul go off books to kill Allison/Russians for personal revenge? Surely the CIA would want her captured alive so they can assess the damage she's caused over the years?
     
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    Damage is already done. Remember Dar said that a scandal like this would be something the agency would not be able to recover from. So better off just killing Allison?

    Though how do you explain that to Langley?
     
  16. dragician

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    I agree with how they handled Allison. it has to be done that way to avoid embarrassment. As Saul painted it, it was almost perfect.
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    It was a nice closure episode. A little boring, but I prefer that over cliff hangers that may or may not get resolved.

    I really enjoyed Sauls retribution the best. I hated the Allison storyline and was glad to see she will not be returning.

    I still feel like there is something sinister about Otto. He will definitely be back.

    Quinn may or may not be dead. I suspect he will be returning.

    I was glad to see the reporter get owned. It seems Numan will be coming around in the future.
     
  18. leroy

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    Thought it was well done. Not sure if there's something sinister with Otto because I got the sense that he had feelings for Carrie all along. He agreed that she needed to be replaced but kept helping her.

    My sense is that she did not pull the plug on Quinn and we'll see the next season open with her back in the US, with her daughter, and taking care of Quinn (who will be pissed that she didn't pull the plug).

    I'm glad they took out Allison. Couldn't have that hanging over their heads going forward.
     
  19. Commodore

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    every man in the show is in awe of/in love with Carrie, lol
     
  20. yo

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    Allison's storyline was the best of the season! And her character was arguably the best too.
     

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