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Heated arguement with boss

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Downtown Sniper, Aug 1, 2015.

  1. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Contributing Member

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    Got into an argument with my supervising manager 4 years ago. Two 25 years old dropping F-bombs. I hung up on him...and accidentally redialed. I only noticed when I heard a voice coming from the coffee table. I explained that I accidentally redialed. He was totally cool about it as if the prior 5 minutes hadn't happened. So was I.
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    Have you considered yet the possibility that the dude's right and you should change the way you work? Putting in a 12 hour day to make sure everyone gets paid is self-sacrificing and responsible, but it's not leadership. If it takes 2 people to do your job, maybe you should have another person get hired, or figure out some way to get everything accomplished within workhours instead of playing the hero. You seem to take a lot of pride in the volume of work you can get done, but it isn't always the thing the company needs most to push volume, especially if it is impacting quality of life for the employees.

    So I don't know, because I don't work there. But, it doesn't seem to me like you've thought very hard about how he may have been right (no matter how inelegantly he put it) and how you might get better.
     
  3. dragician

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    well said...
     
  4. kevC

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    Didn't read the OP but was the argument over how to spell "argument"?
     
  5. Yung-T

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  6. Downtown Sniper

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    Sorry for the delayed response.

    I walked into work Monday morning and didn't seek out the boss for a talk, just carried on like a normal day.

    He asked me a few work related things as per usual throughout the day like nothing had happened.

    My uncle was in a neighbouring suburb for a job yesterday and popped into our new office (we'd just moved two weeks ago). He eventually wanted to have a chat with me outside to which he mentioned he let the boss know about what I'd said - because he thought I had already told this to the boss already.

    The boss followed soon after to have a chat about the whole situation. We were talking for a good 40 minutes (uncle had left after maybe 5)

    A whole range of things were discussed. He said he doesn't know how to deal with people in those situations, which is his form of a half apology.

    I agreed I need to work on not letting the stress show to others in the office - he understood this said he was in my same position years ago.

    Some useless stuff he brings up not relating to the incident at all.

    Said the company needs me because no one can do the job bla bla.

    Towards the end he said he doesn't want me to be coming in ridiculous hours in the morning if it's going to make me hate being here (didn't have a response for when I asked if that did happen, what would then be the consequence if all things weren't completed come 5pm end of month?)

    He'd much rather me come in 30 minutes early each morning and focus on some side tasks we've talked about me doing previously to try and generate business.

    "I'd love nothing more than to give you a 5 figure bonus at the end of the year"

    Now it just feels awkward coming in early today because it's perceived I'm only doing it because of the potential financial rewards.

    When in all honesty if he'd have pulled me aside in the past and let me know that's what he wanted, I would've done it.

    He kept reiterating that because the office manager is away that's playing a hand in how we're all stressed at the moment covering for her + dealing with a new IT system which is an utter failure.

    I had a long think session on the weekend and basically came up with the conclusion I need to hold out here until the end of the year and receive my bonus. If things go back to how they were and back to a great office environment - then great.

    If not, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

    PS: I'm not asian for whoever asked ha.
     
  7. tomato

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    But do you ever wish you were Asian?
     
  8. Haymitch

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    That's the only reason I work extra. Heck, financial rewards are the only reason I work at all.
     
  9. Dei

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    Sounds like it turned out kinda OK but I think you need to reevaluate your outlook of the situation. Sounds like your boss already apologized and is trying to make amends yet it seems like you're belittling it. I'm beginning to agree with the others that said you seem like a worker bee that won't communicate on stuff you think is wrong.
     
  10. Dairy Ashford

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    Your biggest error might prove to have been advising of your wanting to leave through your uncle, it creates the impression of going above or around his head; and like any experienced manager he may have initiated whatever contingency plan he has for losing employees: be it documenting your mistakes or incidents like this, or using your short-staffing argument against you to get requisitions for new hires while taking on or temporarily outsourcing your duties. Point being it's time to start contacting headhunters.
     
  11. Kim

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    True, but if he is that important to the company and does twice the work for one man's pay, then the they'd be better off keeping him.
     
  12. Invisible Fan

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    I think your position is safe, but I'd look around to see what your real worth and future earning potential is.

    Maybe that manager has a point. Try flexing some of those leadership muscles and get people to do something before that time of the month arrives. Prepare a checklist of tasks. The less you become a point of failure, the more you can take credit for it.
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    Don't feel embarrassed about the bonus. At the end of the day, your time is money. Any company that expects their workers to work ridiculous hours without properly compensating them are idiots. As an employer, I always encourage my workers to let me know when something's not being done properly. That doesn't mean you come to me because Tommy said something about your mama, but it does mean that if someone repeatedly is not pulling their weight, you let me know rather than dealing with it for 2 months hoping someone will notice.
     
  16. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Do you have any openings? Sounds like you have good compensation and bonuses. What about 401k?
     
  17. hotballa

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    Would love to have....wait, didn't I see you post in the inappropriate teenage girl clothing thread? err, no openings, sorry!
     
  18. Invisible Fan

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    OP, there's some half decent advice in here, and one of the constructive measures to deal with criticism is to form an action plan or lessons learned from this incident.

    Quit or not, you'll have to deal with dbags and **** sandwiches at the workplace. Better off learning and reflecting from your mistakes than repeating it again or worse...
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Dude, your boss is basically tell you that you can in fact perform better by not working on whatever it is you are so focused on and make more money. Take a hint!
     
  20. cheke64

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    Make sure you put a cover on those TPS reports.
     

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