Heat maneuvering could net Mike Miller, keep Haslem

I don't think that's possible. The Heat would have to send out contracts nearly equal to what they receive if they want to stay over the cap the whole way.

 

I don't get it. After Dan Gilbert ripped Lebron a new a-hole, why would he work out a sign and trade to help the Heat and seal up all the supporting cast that they need. It makes no sense.

If this goes down then you might as well gift-wrap the title to Miami for the next six years.

 

could the cavs secretly pull off the sign and keep? that would be stellar :grin: !

 

I can see Cavs doing something only if Miami has something signifcant to offer. And I doubt the Heat does. If they are doing a Bosh S&T, that would mean the Toronto 1st rounder, at least, goes back to Toronto. So, what can they offer the Cavs? Their own 1st rounder (low pick expected), cash, S&T of their own FAs (D. Wright, U. Haslem, Q. Rich, J. O'Neal, etc.)? Doesn't sound like the kind of stuff that would temp the Cavs.

 

Cleveland isn't going to do anything to help Miami. This isn't possible.

 

True, and given Gilbert's explosion, hard to see it happening.

Still, from a pure logic perspective, if the Cavs could get a huge trade exception and something like a 2013, 2015, 2017 first round pick (ask for the moon, why not)...hey, that's something.

 

Miami are the ones that need help to get roleplayers around their Big Three. They have few, if any, assets left after trading Beasley.

No one in the league is gonna help them. This is just all conjecture.

 

it is better to get something rather than nothing.

 

I doubt Dan Gilbert feels this way. He's already compromised the future of his team's ability to acquire FAs because he couldn't control his emotional outburst.

 

What could Miami have that has value to Cleveland? The value to Miami is enormous. That's like saying that it was better for the Native Americans to get something rather than nothing when they traded some blankets and beads for Manhattan.

 

not when its 20 million in crappy players. i'd rather have the capspace than garbage.
really picks arent enough to offset that... usually need a great young player and picks. but who really wants the heats picks because they wont be very high for awhile.

 

From a salary cap point of view, this is technically possible if they get Jermaine Oneal to sign a non-guaranteed deal to match Lebron's incoming salary. But I refuse to believe that Dan Gilbert would do such a thing for Lebron/Miami.

 

sorry but i dont agree with you. why would you want to help them? unless u were getting somethign significant, i would have to say id rather get nothing than help them build a dynasty.

 

As a Longhorn fan, I'm glad to see that Miami is working hard to surround Dexter Pittman with some complimentary players.

 

Pittman played at a local rival school down the street from mine. It's nice to see him go from fat slob to possibly the starting center for a contender.

And there's no way Gil will approve anything affiliated with Lebron.

 

30th pick, 30th pick, 30th pick. Nice.

I don't see it happening.

 

I think in the scenario you proposed, at least the 1st year salary of JO must be guranteed:


From Larry Coon's Faq:

However, I don't think JO's contract has to match Lebron's. It can be significantly less. Specifically, it can equal to the difference between Lebron's contract and MIA's remaining cap room after signing Miller, Haslem and whatever other FA they wish to get.

For example, let say MIA signs Wade, does a S&T for Chris Bosh, and has $21 mil left in cap space (all numbers here are "back of envelope" and given as examples only). They can go ahead and offer a salary starting at $6 mil a year to Haslem, $4 mil a year for Miller. They then have $11 mil to play with. So, in order to get Lebron in a S&T for $16.6 mil, they'd have to send out roughly $5.6 mil (or more specifically, $5.5 mil, since they can be up to $100K over the cap, I think, in such a trade) out.

Would Cleveland take any of the Miami guys for that amount? I doubt it.

Like I said, the Cavs can have about $13 mil in cap room if they just let Lebron walk and release Delonte. Would they want to eat into $5.5 mil of that cap room and take on some not so hot players in exchange for a couple of very low 1st rounders?

Doubt it, unless I am missing something.

 

I think Gilbert has stated before there will be no sign and trade if Lebron left. I don't think he is going to change his mind after that open letter to the fans, he is not in the mood to do Lebron any favors.

Also, what picks do the Heat have that they can trade, haven't they dealt everything under the sun to get rid of contracts and to get Bosh.