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[HBO] The Leftovers

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    my body is ready.

     
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    I can't wait!
     
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    Hope it continues the upward trend from season 2, gets a proper send off.....
     
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    Anyone watch the premier last night?
     
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    Didn't watch yet, thanks for the reminder!
     
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    no. something more important and entertaining was airing last night.
     
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    Yep but wasn't sure if people caught it on demand this morning just yet......
     
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    Just watched it, pretty good continuation. I wish I had more episodes to watch :)
     
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    I just watched it last night. Boy, I was really struggling with remembering what has happened thus far from Seasons 1 and 2. They do a recap before the ep and then have very quick flashes to help jog your memory. I finished the episode with the same expression I did throughout most of the show..."what the...what? I don't underst...what??"

    It was a very interesting episode though. Glad it's back.
     
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    Kevin Christ?

    His (main) believers that knew about the book all have the same names as some of the disciples.

    And can someone explain the ending for me?
     
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    Ending.....I assume it's a flash forward because that's an aged Nora at the end.......
     
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    It looked like an old Nora in the future. Mirrors the prologue where they showed a cult in the 1800's that used doves to get signs from God. Looks like old Nora was throwing away messages from the doves? I somewhat have hope that they won't leave us dry like the abomination that was LOST. They haven't set up as many loose ends as that terrible show.
     
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    What was the deal with standing on the rooftops in the 1800s? Was that just them getting closer to God? Why was the woman shunned by her husband? Why was the reverend or whatever continually changing the date on the chalkboard? Man, are these things supposed to be confusing, or did I miss something?

    BTW, I LOVED it when The Departure song was playing. That song is just so fitting.

    https://play.google.com/music/m/Ti4rob6cachdtzoztlvju5umuem?t=Departure_Reflection_-_Max_Richter

     
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    It was just some cult that was getting a message through the doves and the reverend kept re-calculating the end of the world but kept getting it wrong. The husband eventually lost faith and shunned her but the wife kept the her faith. Looks like they're trying to tie this 1800s cult into the mythology of the show (hence the doves at the end). This is all I got.
     
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    I think its just showing how different cults have formed throughout time and the effects it can have on people believing and their families. A good parallel between the guilty remnant and the new cult that is forming in Jarden.
     
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    Where is Regina King and Lily?
     
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    Damon Lindelof Explains The Leftovers’ Opening Prologue

    The Leftovers’s third and final season begins, like the second, with a mysterious dialogue-free sequence in another place and time. In season two, it was a prehistoric vignette involving a pregnant cavewoman, a venomous snake, and a possibly inter-dimensional earthquake. Season three’s opener is a little less elliptical: The congregation of a 19th century Christian sect called the Millerites begins to dwindle after a preacher sets several successive (incorrect) dates for the Rapture. Millerism was a worldwide movement built on William Miller’s prediction that Judgment Day would come on October 22, 1844 — a date known ever after as the Great Disappointment. Those failed ascensions echo the episode’s present-day action, wherein Kevin Garvey is back in police uniform, trying to keep the Texas town known as Miracle from blowing up again as the seventh anniversary of the Departure approaches, sparking predictions of apocalypse.

    Showrunner Damon Lindelof says the idea took off in the earliest days of the season-three writer’s room. First, he made everyone read and discuss Leon Festinger’s When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group That Predicted the Destruction of the World. “We were talking about the book obsessively over the course of the first month of breaking the story,” says Lindelof. “Festinger and his team of well-educated sociologists and psychologists were able to embed with this woman in Chicago who claimed to be communicating with extraterrestrials, who told her the world is going to end, and she has a very specific date for it. She published a story in the local newspaper and they found her and said, ‘Can we be there with you for the month leading up to the end of the world?’ And so they were there at Ground Zero when the world didn’t end. When the world doesn’t end the first time, the woman is like, ‘Oh I got the date wrong.’ She does it three times before people say it isn’t working. That’s cognitive dissonance, and that became an interesting idea.”

    The novelist Tom Perrotta, author of The Leftovers — the novel — and Lindelof’s partner in the writing room, had first brought up the Great Disappointment during season two after reading about the Millerites in another semi-scholarly book, Whitney Cross’s The Burned-Over District, a study of religious movements in Western New York. Reza Aslan, the show’s religion expert, chimed in that they were one of his favorite “end-time groups.” “Like a lot of ideas we explore in the writers room, it took a while to percolate and find its place in the show,” said Perrotta. That time came when Lindelof discovered that the Millerites had a large branch in Australia — the ultimate destination for the show. He brought in some printouts one day and told his writers, “We’re doing this. We’re going to show it.”

    “I loved this idea of dressing up in white, getting up on your roof and waiting, and nothing happening,” Lindelof says. “And so when in the episode we literally pivot off of that woman after the third time and she’s been shunned by her family, and you pan across their white bodies, then you’re suddenly on the Guilty Remnant — the parable is perhaps a little too on the nose. But at the end of the day it’s called The Leftovers! The characters are dealing with apocalypse fever. Do they feel the world’s going to end on the seventh anniversary? Do they feel there’s going to be another departure?” It’s exactly the imminence of that supposed Second Coming that prods Kevin’s brother-in-law, the Reverend Matt Jamison, to start compiling the Book of Kevin, a handwritten new testament and the title of the episode: “Matt’s attitude is, ‘I don’t know what’s going to happen but Kevin will be a part of it.’”

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/04/the-leftovers-opening-prologue-explained.html
     
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    This episode I thought might be the strongest one yet. At least top 3. The Wu Tang trampoline scene was incredible.
     
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    All I know is I laughed pretty damn hard when *someone was interrupted doing something.*
     

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