Has any Coach Been More Fortunate than Phil Jackson

No, he takes 2nd round players and what are "scrubs" for other teams and makes them valid pieces. Thanks to that his GM has cap space to get the big contract players... Players that Phil will improve with his system and his particular methods. Pau Gasol, Kobe, Shaq, Lamar, Jordan... all of them were better/much better players coached by him.

Phil Jackson is the best coach of NBA history; may have had some luck, but luck pursues the best. He's the best for a lot of reasons: season planning, locker room and group control, chemical maker, motivation, faith and best production achieved on all his players, discipline, HQ game (very important and underrated), game philosophy and basic ideas that success at the highest level, defensive settings and in-game adjustments, etc...

 

I didnt say that. To me, phil like a certain kind of player and adelman likes another. I think offensively both coaches are equal, but defensively phil is surperior and from a in game adjustment, phil is better also. Look at the chances adelman had with the kings to put la away and his team couldnt. Go look at game 6 vs the bulls when his team lost focus and the lead and eventually the game. Phil makes subtle adjustments that go under the radar and people dont give him credit. When peja was stinking up the joint, adelman left him in even if he had hedo sitting on the bench. People thought the triangle was dead with shaq running, but he got shaq to buy into it.

A huge part of being a great coach is getting players to buy into everything your selling. Whether its ron harper or brian shaw playing the point or rick fox shedding his soft image as a player. When kobe dominates the ball and the team gets stagnant, he takes kobe out and make the team get into the game. We watched the 07 playoffs when adelman late in games had the same tired strategy that wasnt working. Iso tracy top of the key and watch him get trapped. In game 3, he put him mid post which was 2 games late. I think adelman is a good coach, but i think given the same talent, jackson would out coach him.

 

Phil is very lucky to have the players he had. He is smart to be with teams with good players. Until he goes to a team like the clippers and wins a championship from the ground up, then he will lose that stigma, but he won't do that because he will expose himself for the fraud that he is. also the whole thing about him being a zen master is such Bull S**T. If he made great players like Kobe and Shak play better, then why did they have problems, and why couldn't he make Malone, Payton, and Kobe play great toghether. He bailed on the Lakers when things got tough, and when Rudy T. started to get things better he put his nose in and kicked Rudy T out. He wasn't able to win again until Memphis gave them Gasol. On TNT there is a video where they are discussing Phil and other coaches. Barkley just pretty much says it was the players PJ had that won him the rings. I wish there was a poll that NBA players would have and I bet they would all agree that it was the players that won those rings.

 

Bones n' Brains

 

Phil Jackson is the GOAT among NBA coaches.

 

Let's say that Phil Jackson and Mike Brown switched places: Cleveland would probably have advanced already while the Lakers would've "choked" against OKC.

 

Bingo

You don't get Lucky winning 10 championships. He understood the situation and made the most out of it.

Or maybe people are thinking he should take a job with the clippers where the owner can care less about winning.

As a professional coach, you win and winning is what he does well.

Was he Lucky? No he was wise to coach teams that were willing to spend money for talent. That's not luck, that's called wanting to win.

Phil is one of the greatest coaches because he can take advantage of the situation and win and anybody saying they don't want him as a coach is a homer.

 

PJ is a great coach, like many have said, to counter those egos on both teams is a great feat.

In terms of being more fortunate, I would say Red Auerbach of the celtics could be one of them. YES he is probably one of the best coaches in league history, but he is pretty damn fortunate to have guys like russell, kc jones, tom heinshon and john havelecheck (spelling?) playing for him although he had a big part in picking up on those players.

 

Any notion that Phil Jackson was just "lucky" went out the door when he came back to the Lakers after the Shaq era and turned around a terrible Kobe-lead team that didn't even make the playoffs without Phil. Some of you may be forgetting that NOBODY thought Kobe was the best player in the league then, in fact he was thought of as a headache and too selfish to win. Phil came back and turned the whole team around. If all Phil did was win with Jordan, that's one thing, but the guy has turned every team he has gone to into a dynasty. Jordan didn't win a ring before him. Shaq didn't. Kobe didn't.

Just having a lot of talent doesn't make it easy to win in the NBA. Look at the Cavs. They have LeBron, Shaq, Jamison, etc. and now are likely to lose in the second round. You put Phil on that team and you'd see dramatically different results because teams adopt the attitude of their coach. Like others have already said, you don't win TEN titles by accident.

 

Hedo was ice cold. He couldn't hit a shot to save his life.

The Kings DID totally buy into his system. How else do you think they won so many games in such beautiful execution? Look at how the Kings played. I have never seen a better team offense than that. They lost to the Lakers for these reasons: (1) Their core players were mentally weak, except for Bibby. (2) Everybody knows that the refs robbed them of that crucial game 6. (3) Horry.

Are you saying that if they swapped the coaches in that series, the Kings would have won? I doubt it, unless the refs helped Phil's team too.

 

and your point is?
thats a creation of tex winters not phil jackson.

why he couldnt win against the pistons? 4 great players 4 future HOF (Malone, Kobe, Shaq, Payton) against 5 not star players.

 

did i say phil jackson created it?

and malone was so over the hill and so was gp.

just because they were future HOF's doesn't mean they played like a HOF when they were on the lakers.

that pistons team was one of the greatest defensive team in nba history and they just matched up up well with the lakers.

tayshaun prince locked down kobe and ben wallace locked down shaq. they rendered both teams best players ineffective.

 

Your point would be valid if those six minutes were at the end of the game. But Phil took Kobe out to start the second quarter. He played the entire second half. He "only" had 26 points in 18 first half minutes and you think an extra six minutes would have netted him 20 points? Six minutes at the beginning of the quarter, when he's not going to the line on every foul?