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Harrison Barnes turns down $64 million extension

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Air Langhi, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    I think they have to, at this point. Unless they could find someone cheap and produce as well as Barnes, it's worth it for team chemistry.

    That said, I think you could plug in most anyone at that position, and they'll do well because of the Curry/Thompson dual threat.
     
  2. malakas

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    as long as neither of my teams sign him, I'm extremely happy for him getting a max contract and harming the capspace of any team that signs him. Either it is Celtics, Warriors, Bulls etc.
    Pretty soon it will be one of the worst contracts in the league.:)
     
  3. digitallinh

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    It's hard to be "consistent" when you're the 4th option on your team.

    Barnes is worth the max mainly because he's very good at playing the 4.

    How many wing players in the league that can guard LMA type players and at the same time switch onto Harden.

    I can't think of many.

    The fact he shoots near 40%, 24 years old makes this a no brainer. Also, to all those folks scoffing at making open 3s, it's not exactly easy.

    Barnes being a 18/7/5 type player as a good second option on a playoff team isn't that crazy.
     
  4. ivanyy2000

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    Barnes doesn't even close to max contact. It is not even close.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    He hasn't really shown he's a volume shooter yet and 38% is good but Pat Beverley had a better year from distance.

    What I hate about Barnes is how the Warriors offense just stops when he launches that ugly turnaround.

    He just has a replacementy vibe. Versatile but quotidien in most facets.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    Too many easy gimme midrange shots for your taste I presume.
     
  7. ivanyy2000

    ivanyy2000 Contributing Member

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    Barnes, if he get the max contract, it will be the biggest tragedy in NBA history.
     
  8. zeeshan2

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    Bigger than Arenas, Rashard Lewis, and Antoine Walker?
     
  9. RasaqBoi

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    All 3 of those players were depended & almost main focus of the team when they got the max deals.

    This is like if you saw Trevor Ariza play & you wanted to give him a max deal next year.

    Barnes is banking off being around a winning team, age & the gamble on him actually being a little more decent on his own team. Barnes will not be able to score on his own, he needs curry, klay and green to get him open.
     
  10. baller4life315

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    Respectfully, I disagree. You're vastly overrating his offensive game.

    He's almost allergic to creating contact and finishing around the rim. He rarely attacks the basket. The most you get out of him when actually tries to put the ball on the floor is a Rudy Gay-esque one or two dribble pull-up. He's almost exclusively a catch-and-shoot or dribble pull-up/fadeaway ISO player. He's also not a playmaker, so you can't make that argument. His passing, vision and instincts in that regard are average at best.

    I'm sorry, I just don't see the offensive upside or potential to morph into complete offensive player and star; which he would essentially have to become to justify an NBA team seriously featuring him as their #1 option.
     
  11. el gnomo

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    I agree 100%. Does anyone really think he can even be a #2 option? Sure, he'll have great games every once in a while (like game 4), but will also completely disappear at other times. The best thing he has going for him is that he has his head screwed on straight, and you'll never have to worry about off the court issues... but he hasn't lived up to expectations ever since his college days when they thought he would be the next big thing at UNC.
     
  12. hanlong

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    this.

    barnes is actually like trevor ariza. great role player on a contender, but not a max player.
     
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    Barnes is great when he's hitting his open shots. When he's not, he sucks. Just like most NBA wing role players. It's all about the shooting.
     
  14. ThatBoyNick

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    Horrible game by Barnes, missed like 8 wide open 3's.

    His versatility is major, but still, not sure anymore, too big of a risk. Wonder what Marvin Williams will demand this off season. Ya'll thing Ariza can play extended SG minutes?
     
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    lol, Barnes is way better than Ariza. Barnes doesn't do all those things because he plays on a team with 4 other players better than him and thats no knock on him.

    Not saying he's this good but, most of this forum 2-3 years ago was *****ting on Kawhi Leonard for a lot of the same things.

    Bottom line is the Warriors, second best org in NBA, are gonna pay this man even when they don't really have to, because he's that important to what they do. I mean, if he's so easily replaceable I imagine the Warriors wouldn't have a hard time finding a player who can guard 2 through 4 elsewhere right?
     
  17. celebrevida

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    A lot of people are down on Barnes due to Game 5. But it's easy to overreact based on just one game.

    It needs to be pointed out that he is a SF. Tonight he was playing out of position most of the game, especially when Bogut out.

    Having said that, he isn't quite at the level where he can carry a team as the number one option either.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    He's the kind of guy who due to his versatility is worth a lot to hte Warriors since their whole lineup revolves around swiss army knife type players.

    Put him on another team that doesn't have this and he becomes a lot less valuable, simply because you can find lots of guys who can do what he does as well or better for a lot less money.

    I don't get the whole "#2 option" deal - he doesn't have a lot of explosive scoring nights out there.
     
  19. pippendagimp

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    his skillset fits well with beard, but he seems to have a bit of terrence jones mental in him. way too risky for a max contract.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    And he's shooting a brutal 15-44 on those "easy gimme midrange shots" in the playoffs, including 2-11 on that heinous fadeaway.
     

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