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Harden's MVP probability reaches historical peak, per BBR

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by James.B.H, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. Robert Kogut

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    I like Kyrie so much but the truth is Boston is winning with or without him. Brad Stevens is their biggest star. Maybe the problem (last year) was Isaiah Thomas because arguable a simple chair in the middle of the basketball court would have bigger positive defensive impact than him - but he is indeed really amazing offensive player.
     
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  2. durvasa

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    I don't think Kyrie wins it with his current averages, even if Celtics finish with the best record in the league. He'd definitely get some 1st place votes, but not enough to win it, IMO. Narrative plays a role in the final MVP tally, but other factors also play into it. His ho-hum statistical production will hurt him.
     
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    Stop it. Don’t pull me in again.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    So If I trust what the tracker says, then Trump will be the next NBA MVP?
     
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  5. lionaire

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    Still don't expect him to win. He would need to finish the season playing as well as he is now. If he even has one bad month the media will be swift to knock him out of consideration.
     
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  6. durvasa

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    Well, don't have one bad month then. Did Hakeem have a bad month in his MVP year?

    Harden doesn't need to be scoring at his current blistering pace, but hopefully he'll settle into a groove that's sustainable throughout the season where he's playing very efficient offensive basketball and at least decent defense while remaining fresh. There's no reason for him to have a bad month in that case.
     
  7. ApacheWarrior

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    Reminds me of a saying my dad use to tell me when I was growing up.

    “First horse out of the gate doesn’t always win the race.....especially when the media are
    shooting at it from the stands.”
     
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    Impossible.

    If Kyrie does win, and Harden maintains similar strong number with a very respectable team record, then there is no doubt in my mind there would be major calls for a change in how MVPs are voted or who gets to be an MVP voter.

    Kyrie Irving is currently putting up numbers noticeably worse than when he was in Cleveland. 20/3/5 on 43/42/88 (TS 53%) are pitiful numbers for an MVP and worse than practically every MVP winner. He hasn't made the jump that people expected him to make but because Boston is so well-structured he is getting literally all credits for the win (when Al Horford is by far their best and most important player).
     
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    burlesk Serious business
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    This thread made me go back and watch the Beardsanity video again for some reason. Update: It was still great. #noLOF
     
  11. ISOBall

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    I love this edit feature now nobody will know when I accidentally post outside the game thread
     
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    Turnover nazis were mostly LOF's
     
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    And WOFs
     
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    LeBron's at 5% on that list because of win/loss record, but that will even out. He's having an amazing year. i think it will be between LeBron and Harden this year.
     
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    and....
    DOFs (Dwight Howard)
    TJOFs (Terrence Jones)
    MOFs (Motiejunas)
    McOFs (McHale)

    Bunch of sour grape haters.....ok not so much Terrence Jones
     
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    His numbers are HISTORICALLY!

    11 3's attempt and making over 40% from 3's!!! That's Curry MVP level when you consider how many shots he's taking from 3's.

    32 points a game

    10 assists!!!

    Let's not forget 5 boards and 2 steaks and 2nd best record in the NBA.

    It's crazy how ESPN wants to give it to John Wall and The Greek Freak. Their teams ain't even that good, but I guess it doesn't matter since they gave the award to Westbrook, the media will give MVP to who they want. Come on man, John Wall and Greek Freak are your MVP???? STUPID ESPN
     
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  18. DonKnock

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    ESPN’s company policy is ABH.



    Anyone But Harden.
     
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  19. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    John Wall? Seriously, Wall??

     
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    Yea, ESPN loves PG that can't shoot. They campaigned for Westbrook all last year despite the fact that he was on an average team with some great young players(Sabonis, Victor O). Now they are pushing John Wall, another PG that can't shoot.

    Maybe Pierce is trying to be the next Barkley, saying stupid stuff to get attention.


    NBA

    Paul Pierce played with and against John Wall, calling his speed equivalent to "The Flash." Pierce calls him the best point guard in the league, and breaks down how to attempt to contain him.

     
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