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Harden turned down 4 year/$52M extension, pushing for max

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by redhotrox, Oct 27, 2012.

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  1. edwardc

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    Wow thats a major trade for the rockets but the big ? is can Mchale make it work.
     
    #41 edwardc, Oct 27, 2012
  2. mrjohn

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    Clutch fans: harden not worth max...

    Breaking news: rockets land harden...

    Clutch fans: harden worth max, lock em up.

    Lol
     
    #42 mrjohn, Oct 27, 2012
  3. cheke64

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    find that thread
     
    #43 cheke64, Oct 27, 2012
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    I doubted the statement on taking less than the max because it involved money. He also may have been willing to take less than the max but not as low as Presti wanted.

    Regarding starting, if you read the context of when he said it recently, you could tell it was sincere. He didn't want to start there because it wasn't his comfort zone on that team and he was very happy playing there.

    Doesn't matter now.
     
    #44 A_3PO, Oct 27, 2012
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    C- Perkins
    PF - Ibaka
    SF - Durant
    SG - Martin/Lamb
    PG - Westbrook/Maynor


    Yeah...I feel really sorry for Oklahoma there. :|
     
    #45 plutoblue11, Oct 27, 2012
  6. t_mac1

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    You must have mixed emotions now b/c I know you follow OKC a lot too. How do you feel about the trade for both teams?
     
    #46 t_mac1, Oct 27, 2012
  7. DreamRoxCoogFan

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    Comes down to 6-8 mil difference for him. I'm happy he's a Rocket, but does that extra dough really make that much of a difference for him long-term? He could have taken a few million less and still been part of a young and powerful OKC team rather than a little richer and on a young non-contending team. You think he's regretting that hardline stance?
     
    #47 DreamRoxCoogFan, Oct 27, 2012
  8. BigBenito

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    This thread is pretty awesome. :)
     
    #48 BigBenito, Oct 27, 2012
  9. t_mac1

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    $6-8 mil over 4 years => $24-32 million. That's a lot brother. Money talks in this business. There is no loyalty (team or player), with very rare exceptions of course.

    Harden wants the max, and most likely he wants the superstar treatment from a team. Any 23 yo with his skillset would aspire for that.
     
    #49 t_mac1, Oct 27, 2012
  10. HombreDeHierro

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    yeah harden is no longer 6th man...

    he is the number 1 option on this squad. Hes gonna prove his worth
     
    #50 HombreDeHierro, Oct 27, 2012
  11. DreamRoxCoogFan

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    Woj said OKC final offer was 4 years 53-54 mil, and the Rockets will sign him to 4 years 60 mil. So doesnt that mean 6-7 mil difference total, not per year?
     
    #51 DreamRoxCoogFan, Oct 27, 2012
  12. t_mac1

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    Oops my bad, you're right. I guess Harden simply wants the max and his own team.
     
    #52 t_mac1, Oct 27, 2012
  13. BigBenito

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    I wonder what the conversation with his agent was like upon hearing this news.
     
    #53 BigBenito, Oct 27, 2012
  14. t_mac1

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    Charlamagne Tha God ‏@cthagod
    Maybe money's more important to James Harden than winning championships. Dating Trina ain't cheap......

    :)
     
    #54 t_mac1, Oct 27, 2012
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  15. DreamRoxCoogFan

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    Yeah. I guess all I'm saying is that if I were him, I'd take the cut to stay on a contender. What's the difference of 6-7 million if you're winning rings (leading to exposure, endorsements, etc). Would Harden have been on Team USA if he wasn't on OKC? Possibly not. I know money is #1, but winning has to be a big part of being a pro player. It will be interesting to see him adjust to being on this type of team.

    I never got the feeling that Harden wanted to be the guy while on OKC so mainly I'm just afraid of him becoming another Joe Johnson. Regardless, I'm thrilled for the Rockets for this trade. We might have overpaid, but you got to when you're getting a 23 year old star.
     
    #55 DreamRoxCoogFan, Oct 27, 2012
  16. t_mac1

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    Being a #1 option gets you more endorsements/publicity than a 3rd wheel on a championship contender (ask Manu). He might get into the HOF easier that way with OKC.

    But it's understandable a 23yo with his aspirations would think he can do more. He will have his chance with us.
     
    #56 t_mac1, Oct 27, 2012
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Quick take: This is a terrible deal. A very dark day for professional basketball in Oklahoma City.</p>&mdash; Royce Young (@dailythunder) <a href="https://twitter.com/dailythunder/status/262390933260210179" data-datetime="2012-10-28T03:10:48+00:00">October 28, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Also, shame on Harden. The Thunder put big dollars on the table and Harden wanted it all.</p>&mdash; Royce Young (@dailythunder) <a href="https://twitter.com/dailythunder/status/262392582494093312" data-datetime="2012-10-28T03:17:21+00:00">October 28, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Harden talked openly about sacrificing to stay with OKC. I guess it was all talk.</p>&mdash; Royce Young (@dailythunder) <a href="https://twitter.com/dailythunder/status/262393989460807681" data-datetime="2012-10-28T03:22:56+00:00">October 28, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
    #57 redhotrox, Oct 27, 2012
  18. cardpire

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    so, they essentially traded him because he was greedy and because they liked the rockets offer?
     
    #58 cardpire, Oct 27, 2012
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    Probably a package involving Martin and Lamb
     
    #59 rockets88MT, Oct 27, 2012
  20. BigBenito

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    Read this on twitter. Coach of the Year curse has company.
     
    #60 BigBenito, Oct 27, 2012
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