Harden And The Top Scorers In The League Assisted and Unassisted FGs

You think kawahis the solution for the rockets to have a successful season last year?

Assuming a starting lineup of pbev brewer dmo and dwight， how many pts will kawahi avg and the rockets as a team will avg? Who will be creating shots for himself and others?

Same with paul? Who will he be passing the ball to? Brewer， ariza，or broke back dmo and d12

 

Hell no OP

Harden is an overrated left-handed Euro stepping bum who turns the ball over because he has too much A1 sauce or stripper glitter on his fingers

 

harden being fun to make fun of in vines was why he didn't make any all-nba teams, not because all of the people ahead of him were actually better.

unless the argument is that harden caused all of our chemistry problems and; therefore, even a minimum contract player who didn't cause chemistry problems would be better, then it feels highly doubtful that kawhi and paul could have won more games simply because they wouldn't have the scoring ability to carry our offense enough even if they added more defense. not that they shouldn't have been ahead of harden on all-nba teams, just that in the specific case of the rockets, they probably don't create more wins.

 

sure... as soon as you tell me who Marcus Thompson is... lol!

Seriously though - why bother, when you're gonna dismiss someone like Kawhi as 'someone who can't be a #1 guy" - I doubt many considered Harden a #1 guy until he was given the opportunity...
or dismiss Curry because he had a better supporting staff... yeh, and that group set an NBA record... do I think we could have won 41 games with the 3pt barrage he put on this year?
Durant and Westbrook are dismissed why? because they missed the playoffs one year after going 45-37 (a better record than we had with harden this year) with Durant out and Westbrook leading the league in scoring?

dude, why bother?

and yes, all of those guys have flaws as well...

I will say that while Thornton was streaky, I'd much rather have had him in the lineup than Brewer...

Then toss in most any of the guys mentioned above...
and MAYBE D12 doesn't turn into a malcontent...
Maybe EVERYBODY shows more intensity on defense instead of the piss poor effort we saw all year...

Harden is a phenomenal offensive talent... but the game is played on both ends of the court and when you're the cornerstone, you've gotta be able to rally your troops.

but hey, "Those that matter don't mind, and those that mind don't matter" right?

 

Lots of maybes and ifs you have there.

For sure replace harden with anyone not named lebron the rockets still have only mustered 8th seed in the west.

And if spurs had harden instead kwahi or okc had harden instead of wb or clippers had harden instead of cp3 they would have advanced further in their respective playoffs

Wasnt mt’s defense worse or just as bad as hardens?

You think just as bad defensively and injury prone steph curry will suddenly stop everyone from sucking?

Thanks for admitting that you are not sure if anyone would have replaced harden and helped the rockets win more than 41 games

And btw its not hardens fault that d12 can catch the ball and post up. Its not hardens fault that ariza brewers shots werent goin in. Isnt hardens fault that dmos was slow to get back to 100%. Wasnt hardens fault that everyone else was useless.

But at least you had marcus lastname correct LOL

 

Thats not what you asked. Go back to page 8. You asked who, besides Lebron, would give the 15-16 Rockets more wins. You talkin bout bb IQ and you cant follow along on your own rants. Youre essentially saying Harden is the 2nd best player in the Association, I like the guy and all, but hes not the 2nd best player unless he notches up his defense.

 

not really a stretch he was the players MVP

he was carrying too much an offensive load that he had to scarifice his defense
which superstar had to carry that much an offensive load (scroing and playmaking and creating for himself and others)?

if you can, try answering my #2 question as well

 

Hold up their bud don't forget they will say you have a low basketball IQ. This is all opinion based but as you can see some actually thinks their's golden. Nobody on here has a concrete evaluation sheet that says who can or cannot be a #1 guy.

 

But aren't you going off the IF though. If you take Harden off of the Rockets and put Klay or any other potential #1 how far would have the Rockets would have went. Dude, nobody know that because neither one of us has a crystal ball.

 

comment deleted - nevermind... i get what youre saying now... question was worded funky...

 

I used Klay as an example and that's it.

Now again you and I do not know how this team would have performed with another potential number 1.

Russell Westbrook has that #1 potential. Hell he's a number 1 in my book.

My point is we don't have any concrete evidence that says another potential number one could have led this Rockets team to the playoffs or not.

The thing is some people always try to claim their opinions as concrete facts. And then when others disagree, then the insults or the name calling follows.

 

I'd just stop dude... I am... some people just will not accept any opinion other than their own... and as you've mentioned, they just resort to insults...
look at the Melo exchanges... this guy has HIS criteria of what a superstar is, which is pure opinion, and everybody else has a low IQ if they don't agree with his assessment...
If you say anything that can't be backed up with concrete data then you don't know what you're talking about... but he can assert a vast media conspiracy against Harden and you just need to take that opinion as the gospel...
Just like harden was the players MVP last year - so that must mean he's the best... but if he finishes say 5th this year that won't mean 4 guys are better than him... they'll be some rationale to the contrary...
Some people are just too thick skulled to bother wasting your time on...

 

No one in their right mind would take harden over Kawhi.

Quit posting ignorant nonsense

 

Yeah I'm done with it as well. Some people are to caught up in their own opinions. They don't look at other opinions with an objective perspective. Especially when they are on a mission for a player they really like. I'm a big time Harden fan but his play this season (especially at the beginning) ticked me off. I just knew he was going to come out on a mission after not winning the MVP the year before and getting embarrassed in the WCF.

The number one reason why this season went the way that it did, is because the chemistry was destroyed.