Grant Hill and Isiah Thomas call Mike Conley an Elite pg and top 5 in the league, what say you?

Probably not top 5, but I love players with good defense. He's top 10 for sure.

 

Pretty crappy start for Conley.

Nothing special.

 

Parker
Paul
Rondo
Lowry
Rose
Curry
Bledsoe
Dragic
Lillard
Wall
Kyrie
Lawson
Westbrook
Dwill
And..
Lin

In All seriousness point guard has a lot of depth in the NBA and all of these guys are arguably better than Conley except Lin.

 

Marc Gasol and Conley play beautiful basketball together, there is a lot of resemblance between Duncan and Parker there.

 

Conley is being severely under appreciated if people really think this many 1s are better than Conley. Paul, Curry, Westbrook are clearly better than Conley. Rondo and Rose are n/a. The rest of the guys you listed Conley is either better than or about equal.

Kyrie Irving? You serious? The Cavs would easily take Conley over him if they wanted to win right now and probably even the next 5 years if they were wise. Lawson is good, but I would take Conley over him as well because Conley is a better overall player. Lillard, Bledsoe, and Wall are all just not there yet. Maybe later in the season. Most likely next season, but not now. They have their moments of excellence that I won't deny them of, but I'll take Conley for a full 48 minutes as of now. Compared to Dragic and Lowry they are about equals. Williams and Lin are just a joke. Although Williams as been playing better this season.

As Rockets fans we should understand that our team doesn't get enough recognition and that freaking sucks. The media is terrible. It took Dallas signing Parsons & Asik going to another team with a well-liked franchise player to get people to think, "Hey, these guys are actually pretty good!"

When was the last time the media talked about the Memphis Grizzlies though? The guys who beat teams like the Clippers, Spurs, taken the Thunder to multiple game 7s, gone to the Conference Finals? They're becoming just like the San Antonio Spurs except they don't have anything to show for it. (4 or 5 championships) and now Mike Conley is becoming like Tony Parker where people don't realize just how good he is, but don't really give him the credit. I wouldn't go and call him 'elite' because there are few, very few elite players in the league. That's another discussion.

Parker was never the best point guard in the league, but only any given night he had the ability to make you think twice about it. Conley is in the same mold of Parker. Perhaps he's even better than Parker was at his age. But he's never going to get that respect because the media dictates that Kyrie Irving is an elite point guard when he actually isn't.

And that is simply unfair to Mike Conley, Grizzlies fans and especially you because you are being told false information and you are taking it for truth. Conley IS a top 10 point guard in league. He will also get outplayed plenty of nights, but the season is long.

 

Westbrook is probably one of the best defenders at his position...

 

Not in my top 10.

 

John Wall didn't impress you?

 

If there were some sort of fantasy draft, there is absolutely no way that Conley would be one of the top five PGs taken. Any argument to the contrary is pure foolery.

 

He can be.

 

In another era, it's quite possible. Conley is...what you would call a "Top 5 caliber" point guard. There's just a lot of damn good point guards right now and top 5 caliber might not be top 5.

Just off hand I'd have Westbrook, Curry, Paul, Derrick Rose's asterisk, Dragic, and Wall before Conley. Lots of other guys about even with Conley.

 

Ok, not fantasy as in "Fantasy Basketball". Fantasy as in all teams start off with empty rosters and pick new teams. I definitely was NOT talking about fantasy basketball.

And if you're talking about literal points, as in points scored. The last "elite" PG to win a championship was Tony Parker. A scoring PG. And beyond that the only other name that can be dropped is Rondo. And he had a big three.

 

That's a great example of the kind of arguments you make when you have no actual facts on your side.

Conley is so great at running a team, and yet Memphis has never had a top 10 offensive rating while he's been there. Of course, I'm sure that's not his fault. They'd probably be 32nd without him.

 

Uhm no, it would be a fantasy draft that consists of actual NBA players which mostly have played in the league for years. Don't know what HS picks have to do with this.

 

Conley is not one of the 5 best players playing PG in the NBA right now but he might be one of the best at doing what people traditionally want/expect a PG to do.