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Government Shutdown?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
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    If there is a shut down I doubt it will last too long. On the safe side though you might want to move your vacation to August if you were planning on taking it in June or early July.
     
  2. mc mark

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    So apparently it’s not budget differences that will force a shutdown. It’s the insistence of teapublicans that “riders” be included that restrict what the government can and can’t fund; like defunding Planned Parenthood, the EPA and the new healthcare law.
     
  3. SunsRocketsfan

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    Both sides have their crap they wont let go of. Let's hope they can somehow work out their differences last minute and avoid a shutdown.
    I generally vote republican but I am pretty sick of the crap to not fund planned parent hood. It's just the religious pro life nuts that keep pushing for it. As for the EPA I can see they mean well but sometimes they over step their boundaries. New healthcare law.. well I think that has been debated to death here. It just depends on which side of the isle you stand on.
     
  4. mc mark

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    Agreed

    You work those things out with legislation, not hold the budget hostage until you placate some crazies.
     
  5. Rumblemintz

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    This morning on the Today show (I was running late) Reid was saying it's not the Repub's fault. They are only a couple of billion off between the two parties. But he blamed the Tea Party as being the ones to blame for insisting on so called 'Handout' programs to be slashed, such as Planned Parenthood and other Social programs.

    In the end who looks bad to the voters if a lock out occurs? Probably the President and the Democrats the way it's being spun now,. Which probably identifies the root of the problem. It's all strategic posturing.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    hee hee, sure:

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  7. bmb4516

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    I'm not sure where the Planned Parenthood thing is coming from. The one-week CR doesn't have PP cuts in it. In fact, when Obama's spokesman was asked earlier today what the Administration's problem with the one-week CR, he couldn't name a single policy item.
     
  8. AMS

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    lol, i have the exact same issue... Im afraid of sending in my passport and then it getting stuck due to the shut down.
     
  9. SunsRocketsfan

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    you better just hope the TSA doesn't read some of your posts on here or else ...
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  10. Wakko67

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    I tell you what, being in the military and not getting paid next Friday isn't too cool. You have to love politicians.
     
  11. rimrocker

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    Currently working OT to maybe shut things down.
     
  12. JCDenton

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    I'd love to see a shutdown. Great way to help most people realize that the federal government isn't as important as they think it is and life will go on regardless of if the government does. However, disrupting pay to the troops is a massive betrayal far worse than anything that would be given up in a compromise. I wish they would fund the military and shut the rest down. As an aside, I don't really see why Planned Parenthood needs to be a taxpayer funded organization. People who care about the cause can fund it, but the rest shouldn't have to.
     
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    Part of this whole deal is that the Republicans/Tea Partiers/whoever knows that Obama will cave. He's a very, very weak leader and his opponents know this very well.
     
  14. mc mark

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    yeah well I don't think I should have to fund war so...
     
  15. basso

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    “At this point, whether or not the government shuts down tomorrow night is almost entirely in the hands of the Democrats in the Senate and of the skinny guy with the ears. This suggests that the decision will be determined principally by the Democrats’ calculation: will it, or won’t it, pay off politically?”

    troo dat.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    So, in response to a purely political gambit, being enacted unilaterally by one party, they'll have to respond with a political calculation on the costs and benefits?

    What a fantastically brilliant observation of obviawesomeness. And probably the least ****ing r****ded thing you've CTRL-V'd in months.

    Congrats brah.
     
  17. SpiffyRifi

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    can those who say the shutdown is Obama and the Democrat's fault please tell me what concessions the Republican's have made?

    I suppose it's their fault for not giving into the demands of Republicans, but that's like saying the reason a hostage situation is still going on is because the cops don't give into the demands of the mad man with a gun.

    From what I've read, the Democrats have agreed to a lot of cuts proposed by the Republicans, but I haven't seen anything concrete that the Republicans have given up. I could be completely wrong, and if so, please enlighten me as to what concessions the Republicans have made.
     
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    Have you not yet realized that for the GOP, "compromise" = "do what we say, no questions asked, or we'll hold our breath and stomp our feet until you do"?
     
  19. rhadamanthus

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    Seriously, we're going to not pay troops, stop federal mortgage backing (in the busiest months of the real estate year) and a host of other problems for the sake of lunatic bumper sticker issues like planned parenthood?

    How can people honestly vote for these guys? (btw, they'll still get paid)
     
  20. SpiffyRifi

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    It's completely ridiculous, I watched Dana Lash (sp?), who is some Tea Party radio host, on Anderson Cooper and she keeps blaming the Democrats for the shut down. She kept saying the Democrats are willing to shut down the government over planned parenthood. This is a completely ridiculous argument - it's not like the Democrats brought it up, the Republicans include a rider like this and then blame the Democrats for not accepting it. This is what I was saying otherwise, you don't blame a side for not giving into all of your demands, you blame the hostage takers - and from the looks of things, the Republicans are hurting themselves in the eyes of the general public just like they did last time they pulled this kind of crap.
     

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