Gov. Perry Wants to Eliminate Medicaid and CHIPs (Child Health Program) in Texas

Unbelievable. Does anyone else have a problem with this. This guy doesn't want to make too much money so he can have his government handout. He should be trying to make as much as he can, even if it means working more than one job. This is what is wrong with this country.

 

There are a couple of ways to get around this problem.

1. Mandate better wages

2. Have a single payer health care system.

 

Why is MORE government always the answer? Where do hard work and personal responsibility fit in here? If this bum would try too work hard, he may actually find a job where he can get employer sponsored health care.

 

Not really. If he gets a serious illness that limits his workload, he will lose the job and be back to no insurance.

 

And the crux of the rebuttal is also in that thread:

It's all well and good to remark that "mainstream" (whatever the heck that means) libertarians are not 100% in bed with strict libertarian ideology, but it certainly leads any analysis of the platform towards confusion and/or non-sequiturs. If libertarians are not going to distance themselves from typical US policy machinery in favor of libertarian methods/ideas, than they're probably more accurately labeled "moderates" or "fiscal conservatives".

Myself however, when I speak of libertarians, I mean I speak of followers of libertarian theory, thought, and practice. Not something sort of like it, maybe.

And once again, please note that this is really only in reference to the American version of libertarianism - I'm actually very supportive of the socialist models.

 

find him some affordable health insurance making $600 a month.

 

You missed the point altogether. The guy was purposely trying to keep his income under $600 a month. He should be working as much and as hard as he can to make more money. This country has become way to entitlement orientated. Able body people need to work to EARN what they get and quit expecting government handouts. Entitlements should only be a safety net to help get people back on their feet when they fall on hard times not a way of life. It is no wonder this country is quickly going bankrupt when able body people try to keep their income low to get government handouts.

 

i don't think i'm the one missing the point.

 

For reals. Kind of funny.

 

The guy worked as a janitor ONCE a week and had to REDUCE his ours to keep his income below $600 a month. What would happen if he tried working a little more than once a week, say 5-6 days a week. Why not try to get a second job. His income would be much higher than $600 a month. If everyone tried to purposely keep their income low to get government handouts, who would be paying the taxes that provide said handouts?

 

I lol'd.

 

Of course, he might not have even had the ability to work enough just to pay for his medications, he might have had a preexisting condition for which he needed treatment, there are a lot of circumstances that could make it where he felt forced to do what he did.

If his choice is to limit his work hours or forego medications that keep him alive, I would say the decision is clear.

 

Why is LESS government always the answer?

I agree that there are some big problems with our entitlement programs just doing away though with the social safety net doesn't seem like much of an answer.

 

Hard work and personal responsibility fit in there because if there is single payer health coverage, he can work harder for extra hours and not worry about getting kicked out of his insurance coverage.

Why are you calling him a bum? He has a job, and works for a living.

As far as working hard at a place where the company paid for health care, I doubt it was hard work that kept him out of those kinds of jobs if he's a custodian. This isn't the greatest economy to find a new job in right now.

Do you have a job to offer him that will pay his health care if he works harder?

If not what solutions do you have?

 

Why do I have the feeling that some of the pseudo-Libertarians here haven't a clue as to what medications cost if you have pay anything remotely like the full price, or what it costs to pay for a day in a hospital, much less overnight, plus procedures, etc., etc., etc.. It wouldn't surprise me if they are either still on their parents insurance, or went from that to insurance paid through their work, without getting sick in between. That's the only thing that could explain their bizarre attitude towards the less fortunate and their dealings with our healthcare "system." I put system in quotes, because to date, we still have no real system for healthcare in this country worth mentioning, unless you are a "senior citizen."