It turns out that logic behind this mah be... The child wanted to climb in and since mom didn't prevent child from climbing in... known and encouragement.
There's a million more important wildlife-related stories that could be discussed, but I understand why this one gets everyone's jimmies rustled. Case in point: The Thai wildlife authorities found 40 dead tiger cubs in a freezer on Wednesday at the Tiger Temple, a controversial tourist attraction in western Thailand, and were investigating whether the carcasses were evidence of the temple’s involvement in the illegal wildlife trade. The discovery came as Thai wildlife rangers were removing adult tigers from the temple in an effort to shut down the attraction after receiving complaints that the temple was trafficking in endangered species. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/02/world/asia/thailand-tiger-temple-dead-cubs.html?_r=0
The gorilla would have killed the kid within seconds if he wanted to. Did he? Yeah that's what I thought. He was shot. If I owned some stupid zoo, this is what I would have done cause I'm smart. 1. evacuate the whole zoo 2. bring in all the zoo officials/zoologist or whatever. 3. Grab the kid. 4. Done 5. No gorrilla shot. 6. See how easy that was
I've been to many zoos as a kid, not once I fell into an enclosure of a Gorilla pit. It wasn't just some random accident. It was negligence and irresponsibility and being part of the natural selection. The mom should be penalized for it.
(Damn.... very sad.) Did the Tigers have names? If it's not hash-tag worthy, people won't feel warm and fuzzy by complaining about it.
What about Zimbabwe killing 200 lions after the Cecil furor shut down trophy hunting? Everyone got their social justice on a dentist, Zimbabwe gets no money and Lions still get killed.
Exactly how much time would this process take? It's not logical to assume that the gorilla didn't kill the kid in seconds, so he never would. You might be smart, but as with all topics the internet justice warriors bring nothing but naivete to the table. Bear in mind that this is a full grown gorilla. He could kill the kid by hugging him too hard, or taking a bad step. It doesn't have to be intentional. This became a very crappy situation the moment that kid got in there and forced professionals to make an unwinnable split-second decision.
This is your logic? It's never happened before therefore it's excusable? I've never murdered anybody (and I presume you haven't either) therefore if you do murder someone, it's excusable?
Agreed. This is the kind of discussion I like. No butt hurt insults flinging around like monkey poo. Although I kinda sound like I was flinging something with my post,hahahha
Accidents happens. I blame the zoo but I'm not suggesting the zoo needs to penalized. Rather, the zoo should learn from this and adjust. Building codes are CONSTANTLY evolving once humanity learns a lesson. It's called progress. The courts will decide if the zoo is legally responsible but I'm positive all zoos will adjust after this hard lesson.
So I'm supposed to be punished because people can't control their ****ing kids now? I lose better access to beautiful stuff because someone else's mistakes?
Here's what a trained zookeeper says: "I am going to try to clear up a few things that have been weighing on me about Harambe and the Cinci Zoo since I read the news this afternoon. I have worked with Gorillas as a zookeeper while in my twenties (before children) and they are my favorite animal (out of dozens) that I have ever worked closely with. I am gonna go ahead and list a few facts, thoughts and opinions for those of you that aren't familiar with the species itself, or how a zoo operates in emergency situations. Now Gorillas are considered 'gentle giants' at least when compared with their more aggressive cousins the chimpanzee, but a 400+ pound male in his prime is as strong as roughly 10 adult humans. What can you bench press? OK, now multiply that number by ten. An adult male silverback gorilla has one job, to protect his group. He does this by bluffing or intimidating anything that he feels threatened by. Gorillas are considered a Class 1 mammal, the most dangerous class of mammals in the animal kingdom, again, merely due to their size and strength. They are grouped in with other apes, tigers, lions, bears, etc. While working in an AZA accredited zoo with Apes, keepers DO NOT work in contact with them. Meaning they do NOT go in with these animals. There is always a welded mesh barrier between the animal and the humans. In more recent decades, zoos have begun to redesign enclosures, removing all obvious caging and attempting to create a seamless view of the animals for the visitor to enjoy watching animals in a more natural looking habitat. *this is great until little children begin falling into exhibits* which of course can happen to anyone, especially in a crowded zoo-like setting. I have watched this video over again, and with the silverback's posturing, and tight lips, it's pretty much the stuff of any keeper's nightmares, and I have had MANY while working with them. This job is not for the complacent. Gorillas are kind, curious, and sometimes silly, but they are also very large, very strong animals. I always brought my OCD to work with me. checking and rechecking locks to make sure the animals under my care and I remained separated before entering to clean. I keep hearing that the Gorilla was trying to protect the boy. I do not find this to be true. Harambe reaches for the boys hands and arms, but only to position the child better for his own displaying purposes. Males do very elaborate displays when highly agitated, slamming and dragging things about. Typically they would drag large branches, barrels and heavy weighted balls around to make as much noise as possible. Not in an effort to hurt anyone or anything (usually) but just to intimidate. It was clear to me that he was reacting to the screams coming from the gathering crowd. Harambe was most likely not going to separate himself from that child without seriously hurting him first (again due to mere size and strength, not malicious intent) Why didn't they use treats? well, they attempted to call them off exhibit (which animals hate), the females in the group came in, but Harambe did not. What better treat for a captive animal than a real live kid! They didn't use Tranquilizers for a few reasons, A. Harambe would've taken too long to become immobilized, and could have really injured the child in the process as the drugs used may not work quickly enough depending on the stress of the situation and the dose B. Harambe would've have drowned in the moat if immobilized in the water, and possibly fallen on the boy trapping him and drowning him as well. Many zoos have the protocol to call on their expertly trained dart team in the event of an animal escape or in the event that a human is trapped with a dangerous animal. They will evaluate the scene as quickly and as safely as possible, and will make the most informed decision as how they will handle the animal. I can't point fingers at anyone in this situation, but we need to really evaluate the safety of the animal enclosures from the visitor side. Not impeding that view is a tough one, but there should be no way that someone can find themselves inside of an animal's exhibit. I know one thing for sure, those keepers lost a beautiful, and I mean gorgeous silverback and friend. I feel their loss with them this week. As educators and conservators of endangered species, all we can do is shine a light on the beauty and majesty of these animals in hopes to spark a love and a need to keep them from vanishing from our planet. Child killers, they are not. It's unfortunate for the conservation of the species, and the loss of revenue a beautiful zoo such as Cinci will lose. tragedy all around." Amanda O'Donoughue - Tallahassee, Florida
lmao, are you being serious, what the hell are zoologists suppose to do against a full grown silverback. Just grab him right Plus the kid could have been accidentally badly injured considering how strong gorillas are who was clearing dragging the kid pretty violently. A Gorilla does not need to consciously want to hurt the a three year old to hurt hi,.
You can have a better view AND be safer, such as the Houston Zoo glass enclosure. One thing that sets humans apart from gorillas (apart from moats or glass ) is that we learn from our mistakes in the name of progress. People will be people. Parents are people. Kids are reckless. That's life. You can judge (useless) or you can engineer (useful). Water is wet and many people are terrible drivers. Blaming bad drivers doesn't save lives. We now have seat belts and less people die. Everybody knows children go to zoos. The onus is on zoos to make them a safer place for children. It's not hard.
