White people also fought to maintain slavery? Your point? You are really really bad at history my man. Except that not all of them were? You also seem to not understand again, the context. Back then people had a hard time traversing the world because ships sucked. Civilizations like Rome and Egypt, the great Muslim civilizations...I mean find a civilization that could be traversed to and from and you'll find your theories on them to be invalid. Not only that, but the idea of black people being lesser and the psuedo-science that came with the slave trade didn't exist then. Finally, why are you looking to past civilizations as some kind of standard? Do you know who the barbarians were to the Romans? Umm, yes? Because her activism dealt with Americans? Duh? You need to really study up on Socialism and Communism. You keep using these words and I'm not sure you know what they mean and how to apply them correctly.
LOL of course it was only posted in North America. Google is a multinational powerhouse that tailors its product to its markets. Do you think she was influential enough to be featured on google.com.mx or google.fr? For ****s sake.
Current racial categories were constructed by the Confederates and adapted by the Union, one of the sad leftovers from the Civil War. Really is tragic that people still think of themselves winning and losing in those categories.
Best post of this thread. That's how it is. There is literally thousands of things in your genes that make you, "You". One day someone decided to divide people all by a few genes and this is how we define race today.
[rQUOTEr]I’m glad that you are curious why I consider Osama bin Laden as one of the people that I admire. To me, he is in the category of Malcolm X, Che Guevara, Patrice Lumumba, Fidel Castro, all leaders that I admire. They had much in common. Besides being strong leaders who brought consciousness to their people, they all had severe dislike for the US government and those who held power in the US. bin Laden may have come from a very wealthy family, but by the time he was twenty, he came to loathe the eliteness and class conduct of his family… …You asked, "Should freedom fighters support him?" Freedom fighters all over the world, and not just in the Muslim world, don’t just support him; they revere him; they join him in battle. …You stated that some freedom fighters responded that bin Laden’s agenda is more reactionary and does not speak to the needs of the masses of people who exist under US dominance. bin Laden has been primarily fighting US dominance even when he received money from the US when he was fighting in Afghanistan. He was fighting for Islam and all people who believe in Islam, against westerners, especially the US--even when he was fighting against the Russians. [/rQUOTEr]
I'm speaking of the contribution of the race. I'm talking about the history of music from blues to jazz, the history of dance from tap, to the jitterbug, to swing dancing, to hip hop, and the fashions that have gone along with all of that. The moves in the dance, which came from African roots, as well as those that were developed while in slavery, and then spread as people gained their freedom, and were then fostered, developed, and spread were all contributions to American society at large, and would not have happened had not people of one race been oppressed and discriminated against. Of course whites adopted and bastardized much of what was done, but the origins are documented. It's now part of the American cultural heritage, and every American should celebrate it and it shouldn't be a problem that African Americans celebrate their particular contributions. Now as far as individual contributions, then certainly one race or culture that has additional barriers to overcome to make those contributions could also warrant pride and celebration.
Can't wait for all of you to start using Bing, cancel Gmail, suspend your YouTube apps and go back to MapQuest in protest.
Great contribitions of course, which should be celebrated in the context of what it is and how it came about. This is a divisive statement...a fine example of the petty shots that races take at each other. Yet in the very statement before this quote, you insult the white culture for "bastardizing" what has been done as opposed to celebrating that these contributions have influenced American culture. The individual contribution should celebrate the person's contribution...in context of course...but why make it a racial issue instead of an issue of the importance of the contribution.
Hahaha as soon as I saw her on Google I knew certain demographics would come out of the woodwork. It's interesting to note a prominent Asian-American activist who drew inspiration from the civil rights movements and one of the prominent non-African American Supporters of Black Rights is tied to "BLACK SUPREMACY"™! On one hand; we are the model minorities who shut up and deal with hardships and a "shining" example to all of you "bad" minorities! On the other hand; we are black supremacists or whiners. Oh I better shut up; I'm just a uncreative test-taking robot who builds Playstations for my masters. Seriously speaking though; I think the only "debate&discussion" is that I don't agree with her views on Terrorism and Bin Laden. I personally think her experiences as a Japanese-American during WW2; (her father died in an internment camp and she married a fellow Japanese-American who fought in WW2 only to return home to mass Racism) made her extremely cynical for her to take inspiration from some very unsavory fellows and to a large extent hate the U.S. Government despite she was trying to make a better tomorrow for Americans of African and Asian descent. I think it goes to show that I can't remember any celebrated leader/activist who doesn't have a dark past. Nobody's perfect.
Nah I like being Asian Jesus. I'm curious what your opinion is if you decided to reply to me. Or are you being edgy with the personal attack?
What does any of the following have to do with the discussion topic at hand? My opinion is that you can get off your cross because none of what you said applies to the discussion.
Pretty sure it's relevant. I didn't quote other people in this thread, so I'm not dealing with their discussion about the concepts of double-standards, what race should be, etc. I'm addressing the original topic of "Google is celebrating BLACK SUPREMACY" which is addressing Yuri Kochiyama. I gave my thoughts on why it's quite curious that a prominent Asian-American activist is only being addressed as a Black Supremacist. You can take what you quoted as follow up rhetorical questions or you can think I'm being a smartass; either one works. Again, I addressed the original topic of the person Google is celebrating and gave my opinion on her political views.
Who in this thread stereotyping Asians, other than yourself? You brought that up. My advice: keep your your bigoted views to yourself.
White's bastardizing the cultural developments isn't really an insult, it's what happened. Let's go back and look at the history of one of the dances that was invented by African Americans the Lindy Hop/Jitterbug etc. If you look at the Savoy Style that originated it, and was the original, it was quite different than what became known as the Hollywood style. It isn't necessarily an insult, because the Hollywood style has its own merits and value. But it isn't what started swing dancing, and wasn't the original. That's just one example. As far as the individual contributions, when people of one race must face additional hurdles because of their race to reach the place where they could make those contributions, then overcoming those additional hurdles such as prejudice, and bigotry is part of the journey to make those contributions. It makes the contribution all the more amazing. For anyone to ignore those hurdles is diminishing the accomplishment in the first place. Why would you want to deny the hurdles of overcoming bigotry and discrimination in order to achieve great things? I honestly don't understand why folks feel threatened by that, or are upset by it. I do understand why people who want to celebrate those achievements and take pride in the fact that a people who were oppressed and discriminated against not only overcame everything necessary to make great contributions, but they also overcame the bigotry and prejudice to make those contributions. To ignore that part of it, is ignoring history. It does no harm for everyone of all races to honor and celebrate the additional hardships faced by some races in accomplishing great things.
Lol, the personal attacks again. Read the other parts of my post and respond with an opinion instead of focusing on a topic you can feel morally superior about, which is kinda funny since that is what you are accusing me of. Ignoring those stereotypes, what is your opinion on Yuri Kochiyama's views? Her bio, her contributions?
